Samuel Locke wrote:
I too am interested in your thoughts on this subject James S. Saint.

Mathematics came about by practical Declaration, not observation. Man declared that 1+1=2 and 1*2 = 2 and so on. He did not add and multiply all numbers that he found laying around and observe what the answers were so as to come up with the properties of mathematics. He already knew that 5+5 was going to be 10 without scientific experimentation.

Scientists are only the technicians for logicians and, as often demonstrated, are helpless without them.

James S Saint wrote:



In the early 70’s I heard it announced on the news that Science had proven that “logic doesn’t work”. I thought, “how stupidly bizarre”.

The next night while laying in bed, I deeply contemplated the possibility of logic itself being illogical (“not working” ).

Gradually, I dismissed every thought derived by logic to the point that I found that I could not accept any thought at all.

I actually deeply felt a shift in my mind that was suddenly wrenched back into reality by the thought that if logic doesn’t work, then thought itself is totally pointless.

The mind has to accept logic in order to function at all. And shortly realized that logic is actually the concept of what DOES work. By saying that logic doesn’t work, it is really being said that nothing works at all.

And that thought...

And that thought went along with the saying of the day that “everything changes but change itself”.

In other words, you cannot depend on anything and must accept your insecurity and lack of confidence.

Eventually I realized that what they were really saying was that logic does not work “in society” so as to convince the larger masses.

Although I agreed with that notion, I also saw that if you do not at least try to use logic, then it will have even less effect and total disorder will abound, just as it had within my own mind that night.

From there, I found that what is announced on the news is merely a game of manipulation of the masses that later became an entire industry and what they eventually revealed to be the “fourth branch of the government” which had accepted that using “magic” was superior to using logic in controlling the masses.

One example was used in the 70’s concerning mathematics. During those times, there was a strong push for all people to question and doubt all things, especially anything related to Science.

It was questioned whether “1=1” and whether “1+1 = 2”. How can we prove it? If not, we must not accept it as valid thought in anything else we do.

Empirical evidence was useless because of the thought that just because something is true today, doesn’t mean that it will be tomorrow. Thus some reasoning had to be presented that led to the conclusion that it had to always be true.

Many mathematicians involved in “meta-mathematics” or “the theory of mathematics” gave it a shot only to find that their logic was too susceptible to questioning and doubt. But eventually a mathematician used a trick of magic just as had been suggested so as to convince the masses.
The mathematician displayed an enormous contrivance of premises and logical argument that seemed to lead to the final conclusion that indeed, “1=1”. His argument was not contested and eventually became the proof that settled the issue. In reality, all he did was present a case that seemed so elite and confounding that the doubters felt overwhelmed and felt the trying to find flaw and refute it wasn’t really worth the trouble. So out of convenience, they just didn’t respond. “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit”.