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Why are people so ignorant?

Maxvilly
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Posted 08/23/09 - 08:23 PM: Subject: Why are people so ignorrant?	#1
During 2004, I suffered a mental breakdown and was taken for mentalcare and ever since then, the people around me threat me like I am some 12 year old brown nose kid. Including doctors, mental workers and a few family members. But my real question is, how do people get so lazy and laid back to stop questioning other peoples intentions. I has to be bugged down to fight not being on some medicine that is full of checmicals I has NO zero clue what they are. I did take meds for my mental state even 1 year ago. I'm so tired of hearing the same story..."Prevention of" Get real, doctors are clueless, all they do is read their medical books. Then mentalcare workers, worship clueless doctors. And so on and so forth. Why do people never stop and question things. I'm so bored by life. I even bought a 70s telephone, just because I know the new standard phones are just hear to brainwash us all. I start to feel like I am the only sane human in my circles and everybody elses are mear actors to me. I just get a slightly feeling that this world is created around a few center people. A small population of a higher number. Everybody outside, are mearly actors, that believe everything as in this world is an mystical place. And I was there too. Devided between religions, thoughts of something hidden inside me, since I was 4-5 years old. I feel a lot more complete now, but I have yet to find friends with my high standards. I guess "people" just prefer to enjoy themself, while I prefer to understand myself and what's going around me, to obvious higher degrees. Many a people has lost touch to the "old" that was: Man.
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Posted 08/23/09 - 08:37 PM:	#2
Because people are imperfect. It is reasonable to expect some imperfection.
Or not.

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Posted 08/24/09 - 01:01 AM:	#3
Maxvilly wrote: I guess "people" just prefer to enjoy themself, while I prefer to understand myself and what's going around me, to obvious higher degrees. Those who are enjoying life are doing everything right; those who aren't need to start.
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Posted 08/24/09 - 08:19 AM:	#4
It sounds as though your existential angst is founded upon your objection to medication to treat your mental illness. Mental illness shouldn't be taken lightly because unless you have profound insight into your illness, you will only realise how psychologically disturbed you are when it's too late and you have dire consequences to deal with. If somebody with a mental illness is currently psychologically stable and doesn't take medication, they need to be constantly hyper vigilant for the symptoms of their illness and constantly scrutinising the sanity of their judgments and decisions. Most people with mental illnesses can't do this but think they can. Even people who can do this only learn how after several terrible psychotic episodes. If you have only had one psychotic episode it's safe to assume you can't do this! It's also safe to assume you will foolishly claim you can do this. Psychotic people usually harm themselves. I have personally known people with mental illnesses who have self immolated, hung themselves while surviving breaking their neck and a person who plucked an eye out (more accurately half dug the eye out of their skull with a sharp implement). Do you know what these three people all had in common? They all thought it could never happen to them and weren't taking their prescribed medication. Just imagine how many of these stories your doctor and social worker have seen and heard.

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Posted 08/24/09 - 08:46 AM:	#5
Scrivener: My mistake. I seemed to have pushed a red button or so, or do you just like to help? out You speak to me as I am "mental unstable". I am not. So do not treat me like you know me and my experience, and circumstances, not over an Internet forum. Unless you see clear signs, sombodies are a danger to others or themself. It's childish of you, if "I" could read your message. A certain insecurity shines through. But that's my snap moment judgment for You. Now I am going to take Yahadreas advice; To Enjoy myself. P.S. Pharmacy businesses are not about "stop" doing drugs, it's for finding an "alternative" prevention with a doctor, with less "side effects" to patients in "mental health". These are all wonderful Marketing in it self? At least to me, they are. I Hope that somebody gets what I am hinting at.
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Posted 08/24/09 - 02:27 PM:	#6
Its hard to know exactly what you mean in places. But I don't think people are ignorant as much as what you could call 'good' students. And not good students in the sense of good grades, but more in the sense that we are born into a culture, we learn the stories, hear a narration, are shown pictures, we acquire a particular way of seeing. Not that they would call it a way of seeing of course (much less a picture), they would call it history, or they would call it "the world as it is" in the news at six (or facts, or laws, or truths), and this and all other lessons they have learned they shall (and will) dutifully pass along through the generations. But then instead of the world being created around a few center people and the rest something less you would have more a central narration (or a few center narrations) that literally creates the world as "we" in our particular culture know it. And unless one falls through a crack in it he would never know it is there. Good students don't fall through cracks, they don't know them, they can't know them, they know other-wise. What religions?

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Posted 08/24/09 - 02:45 PM:	#7
Maxvilly wrote: So do not treat me like you know me and my experience, and circumstances, not over an Internet forum. Unless you see clear signs, sombodies are a danger to others or themself. I honestly had a similar first impression. It could be due to a metaphor your using. When, you say people seem like "actors" it presents several different possible interpretations. 1. People seem to be over aware of their social expectations. 2. People seem unoriginal. 3. People seem as if they aren't actually people with their own hopes, desires, interests. Number 3 is the one that sets off red flags. I hope this helps with any misunderstanding...
Or not.

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Posted 08/24/09 - 07:34 PM:	#8
What you are saying doesn't really seem to always make a whole lot of sense. A few of your statements themselves seemed rather egotistical or condescending; coming from someone with mental history, that can set off some red flags. And are you really here asking for help? It seems like you only are shooting down or denying anyone that isn't agreeing with you. Isn't there some syndrome where one can't see anything but what one wants to see? I fear the answer is: Yes, the syndrome is called "being human". I believe that, if you truly came here looking for a wider viewpoint of your situation, you wouldn't appear to simply be looking for agreement, or reinforcement. Is it that improbable that you're simply wrong? I'm not saying I believe that, but anything is possible. Edit: Modern telephones are here to brainwash us? Did no one else catch that?

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Posted 08/24/09 - 11:02 PM:	#9
Maxvilly wrote Now I am going to take Yahadreas advice; To Enjoy myself. Yahadreas wrote "Those who are enjoying life are doing everything right; those who aren't need to start.". Enjoy, but you don't have to do everything right. If you have Parkinson's disease it's generally agreed that this is caused by insufficient dopamine production. The outcome is body movements are less controllable by the brain and this becomes a practical problem. People who have this condition are not looked down on. Unfortunately, other behaviours which are problematic are not responded to by some people with the same understanding or respect. Read up on what your doctor tells you is the problem. Become more expert in that area. You'll gain your doctor's respect and even enjoy yourself. It's a start.
"A word in your ear is like an untethered goat in a field" Wittigenstein

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Posted 08/24/09 - 11:06 PM:	#10
Ikrark wrote: Modern telephones are here to brainwash us? Did no one else catch that? Smacks of paranoid schizophrenia. Do you mind if I ask what you were diagnosed with Maxvilly? I'm not trained in this field, just curious.

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