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What is the opposite of help?

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Posted 05/30/09 - 08:45 PM:	#11
Minyun wrote: I agree, however specifics are the basis for communication and communication allows us to know eachother and our world around us, so we must investigate if 'non help' exists or does not exist for a better life. Who would know that love existed, and who could agree with what it was, if there were no word for it. You know that feeling you get when you here a good song, or watch a good movie... that tingling feeling, maybe in your legs or up your spine? What is that feeling, do you have it aswell? If we had a word for it, life would be better because then we could both agree on it (according to these forums anyway ) I can see the direction you are coming from. I disagree with you in your example of 'love'. What came first? The word or the meaning? The emotion or the definition? Personally, I feel something then I find the label for it, not the other way around. We still cannot agree what the definition of love is all around the word. English is also one of the only languages that uses that word for a broad spectrum of feelings. Brotherly love, the way you love your mother compared to the way you love your wife, the way you love a book or a movie, the love you feel for your father or father figure. Other languages have separate words for these feelings, and yes... they are different feelings. Just because our language defines them with the same word does not make them the same feeling. Yes, I agree that an expanded lexicon will allow for more accurate communication, but the more accurate you are the less clarity you have. Anyone know the quote along the lines of "the more accurate you are the less clear, the more clear you are the less accurate."? I remember it from a tools of thinking lecture but I cannot remember who said it. If I am correct it was an award winning scientist living 1950-2000. In any case it is the point I am trying to convey.

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Posted 05/30/09 - 11:57 PM:	#12
Yes, I agree that an expanded lexicon will allow for more accurate communication, but the more accurate you are the less clarity you have. Don't let 'them' hear you say that

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Posted 06/01/09 - 12:34 PM:	#13
Apathy! peace&love...vern

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Posted 06/01/09 - 06:13 PM:	#14
Minyun wrote: If we had a word for it, life would be better because then we could both agree on it I have a word for it: Nostalgia It's along this word, for me, something that crawls up on to me , like an orgasm in from the outside that crawls in to your body. Edited by Maxvilly on 06/03/09 - 03:22 PM
I had details here, ones.

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Posted 06/01/09 - 06:27 PM:	#15
The opposite of help is what my wife provides when she helps me. I often ask her not to be so helpful.
"Nothing is impossible for the man who will not listen to reason." John Belushi, "Animal House" "I have opinions of my own --strong opinions-- but I don't always agree with them." G.W. Bush

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Posted 06/01/09 - 06:36 PM:	#16
There is a phrase circulation in our office: "embuggerance" An embuggerance is something that gives one, or creates, a pain in the ass. As in, a needles yet unavoidable report; an absurd instruction; A pointless, frustrating policy. I guess that is the opposite of helping.
Davidson: We make maximum sense of the words and thoughts of others when we interpret in a way that optimizes agreement. Russel Morris: There's a meaning there, but the meaning there doesn't really mean a thing... Ned: Such is life

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Posted 06/02/09 - 04:59 AM:	#17
I'd also throw in the term "kibitzing" as not being helpful, as in the offering of unsolicited advice, especially while someone is looking over your shoulder in a game of cards or chess.
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Posted 06/02/09 - 06:34 AM:	#18
Apathy! peace&love...vern A little off subject, is it possible to be concerned, motivated, excited and passionate about apathy? i.e. Neutrality/indifference.

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Posted 06/02/09 - 09:13 AM:	#19
Minyun wrote: A little off subject, is it possible to be concerned, motivated, excited and passionate about apathy? i.e. Neutrality/indifference. I don't think you can pasionately advocate for the absense of passion (as in apathy), but I do think you can be passionate about neutrality. There have been arguments that the courts and the press have become overly biased, and there's no where to turn for truth. I think it does make sense to passionately argue for an unbiased and neutral court system and press.
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Posted 06/02/09 - 11:55 AM:	#20
A little off subject, is it possible to be concerned, motivated, excited and passionate about apathy? i.e. Neutrality/indifference. Unlikely, however anything is possible. Edited by Incision on 06/02/09 - 01:18 PM. Reason: e. . .llip. . .ses. . .

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