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What is Sexual Addiction?
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Posted 09/29/09 - 09:59 AM:
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Today I was in my creative writing college class and someone said that a character in their story has a sex addiction which confused me. I asked what he meant by this and the teacher replied that having sex many times objectifies you(makes you into an object). But we are all objects, the same arguement can be used when someone tells a joke and you laugh. They become an object of comedy. Another thing he said was that it's only an addiction if it hurts your normal life, like going to work. Well i enjoy going to work but if I had to choose, I would choose having sex. I'm working to have an enjoyable life which involves having sex. He further went on to say that it's an addiction if people put of important things to be with the person they are having sex with. I have seen people choose people over important things in their life. Some people move to different states just to be with someone. This doesn't have to be someone you are having sex with, could be a friend or a family. Are you to say that a husband who has sex with his wife many times of the day has a sex addiction? Well then so what? My arguement was that it didn't seem like the character had a sex addiction but an addiction to have validation through sex which is more about validation. Saying sex addiction seemed to demonize the like for sex. What do you guys think?
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Posted 09/29/09 - 10:03 AM:
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Some other question is what is the difference between someone who enjoys having sex alot and someone who has a "sexual addiction." I still don't really like the term. Because it seems to demonize sex, the same could be done to "feeling happy." I know alot of people that hurt others to "feel happy" even to laugh. Are we to say laughing is an addiction?
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Posted 09/29/09 - 10:33 AM:
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In this usage objectifying a thing is to remove humanity from the thing and become unable to empathize with it. We might laugh at our friend's joke but our friend is still thought of as a person. Whereas a person with a sexual addiction will only be able to see a potential sex partner as a potential source of sex and be unable to view them as a human being. Many problems stem from the inability to feel empathy to another person.

A psychological disorder is only thought of as a disorder when it begins to become detrimental to a person's life. In the examples you gave there probably wasn't a detriment. Moving to be with an important loved person, while life altering, would most likely be beneficial. While enjoying sex more than work is normal, repeatedly skipping work to pursue sex would become detrimental to a person's well being. A husband having sex with his wife several times a day would only be considered addicted if it was negatively impacting the husband's life.


I think your argument was dead-on in that addictions aren't about the object of the addiction but about the psychology of the individual. A person requiring excessive validation through sex is the same as a person requiring excessive validation through weight loss. The problem is needing excessive validation not sex or weightless.
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Posted 09/29/09 - 10:57 AM:
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aquietguy wrote:
In this usage objectifying a thing is to remove humanity from the thing and become unable to empathize with it. We might laugh at our friend's joke but our friend is still thought of as a person. Whereas a person with a sexual addiction will only be able to see a potential sex partner as a potential source of sex and be unable to view them as a human being. Many problems stem from the inability to feel empathy to another person.

A psychological disorder is only thought of as a disorder when it begins to become detrimental to a person's life. In the examples you gave there probably wasn't a detriment. Moving to be with an important loved person, while life altering, would most likely be beneficial. While enjoying sex more than work is normal, repeatedly skipping work to pursue sex would become detrimental to a person's well being. A husband having sex with his wife several times a day would only be considered addicted if it was negatively impacting the husband's life.


I think your argument was dead-on in that addictions aren't about the object of the addiction but about the psychology of the individual. A person requiring excessive validation through sex is the same as a person requiring excessive validation through weight loss. The problem is needing excessive validation not sex or weightless.


Yes, I agree with all of this. I think that was the point I was trying to stress in my class. I just couldn't figure out if they were viewing sex as wrong for their paticular character and using this term as a way of hiding it.

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Posted 09/29/09 - 11:08 AM:
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I would say that a sexual addiction is one that leads to dangerous, destructive, or unhealthy behavior. Screwing your girlfriend several times a day would hardly be an addiction unless you had a wife at home, your girlfriend were underage, your girlfriend were your sister, or you have 5-6 other girlfriends, all of whom you've told you were dating exclusively. I'd also think that if you were having degrading or humiliating sex and you couldn't seem to govern your behavior, maybe you have a sexual addiction. If you're having sex with multiple partners in an effort to escape a real relationship or you have some other form of snake in your head, then maybe you're an addict. Also, if you have sex to the point of self-destruction, like having sex at work, having sex in public, or having unprotected sex with multiple partners, then maybe you have a sex addiction. I don't know where to draw the line between sexual addiction and sexual deviance, but, in any event, if you can't stop it or control it, it's an addiction.

The whole "if it objectifies you, then it is an addiction " explanation sounds like nonsense.

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Posted 09/29/09 - 02:16 PM:
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I would think addiction means that it destroys or inhibits you from other things in life. If all you do in life is having sex, even where it hurts to have sex and you constantly continue to have sex, then it could be you're addicted. It's the same thing with smoking or alcohol. If you constantly crave smoking or alcohol and it inhibits you from function, then you're addicted.
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A psychological deficiency, that's what it actually is. People with such problems need to consult a psychiatrist. What can philosophy do to answer for the illogical? Yes, we are made to most efficiently mate and procreate biologically but sentience comes at a 'responsibility' to others - to be able to procreate at Will comes with social 'responsibility', don't assume that sexual activity to be merely a process of entertainment, it is a powerful process. You are Gods to an extent, capable of giving birth to a potential human being, a different personality. Should you consider this, your idea of intimacy changes, and probably 'cure' your misunderstanding over this addiction.

Don't take sexuality on such light assumptions, as made to believe by the media. While it does help maintain physical and mental bonds between mates (despite the limited utility value of a sexual and emotional inter-gender relationship) the process itself should always be regarded as primarily 'creation'. Should you disregard the importance of such an endeavour, you will always be not just addicted to it (as you can be addicted to alcohol) but also be responsible for giving life to others without proper 'ethical and moral' considerations.

On a more serious note, it's best to avoid the process if you have the Will. Such activities have no value at all to personal intellectual growth. No value whatsoever.

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Posted 10/01/09 - 04:41 AM:
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A psychological deficiency, that's what it actually is. People with such problems need to consult a psychiatrist. What can philosophy do to answer for the illogical? Yes, we are made to most efficiently mate and procreate biologically but sentience comes at a 'responsibility' to others - to be able to procreate at Will comes with social 'responsibility', don't assume that sexual activity to be merely a process of entertainment, it is a powerful process. You are Gods to an extent, capable of giving birth to a potential human being, a different personality. Should you consider this, your idea of intimacy changes, and probably 'cure' your misunderstanding over this addiction.

Don't take sexuality on such light assumptions, as made to believe by the media. While it does help maintain physical and mental bonds between mates (despite the limited utility value of a sexual and emotional inter-gender relationship) the process itself should always be regarded as primarily 'creation'. Should you disregard the importance of such an endeavour, you will always be not just addicted to it (as you can be addicted to alcohol) but also be responsible for giving life to others without proper 'ethical and moral' considerations.

On a more serious note, it's best to avoid the process if you have the Will. Such activities have no value at all to personal intellectual growth. No value whatsoever.


Yes but intellectual growth is for pleasure also. Why else try to learn something. Although you explained the main purpose of sex was for creation. That is just one meaning, things can have many different subjective meanings to different individuals. Since sex is pleasurable there is no reason why I would not engage in such behaviour. Since putting my hand over fire hurts, I will not do it. It's all about what's pleasurable in life. For example we could get fed food through a straw or a tube, however I enjoy eating actual food so I can tatse it. The process of trying to become more intellectual is also for pleasure or else it would be meaningless.
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Posted 10/01/09 - 10:14 AM:
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There are plenty of things that I'm told are addictions that I just consider good times. I think that things that they like and spend their time on are addictions! shocked

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Posted 10/01/09 - 10:37 AM:
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I have to breathe to live. I have to have sex.


You could argue that every person who works is addicted to work. As such, it is the same concept as being addicted to sex.

Aye, a large proponent is psychological. There are however certain physiological factors that create the same system. Like being really sensitive to a specific human pheremone - as an example.

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