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What is Sexual Addiction?

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Posted 10/01/09 - 11:04 PM:	#11
joehasgotquestions wrote: Yes but intellectual growth is for pleasure also. Why else try to learn something. Although you explained the main purpose of sex was for creation. That is just one meaning, things can have many different subjective meanings to different individuals. Since sex is pleasurable there is no reason why I would not engage in such behaviour. Since putting my hand over fire hurts, I will not do it. It's all about what's pleasurable in life. For example we could get fed food through a straw or a tube, however I enjoy eating actual food so I can tatse it. The process of trying to become more intellectual is also for pleasure or else it would be meaningless. Nope, it's primarily for existence. How can you exist and not learn, it's not possible. Every living organism needs knowledge to exist. Sexual intimacy is not pleasurable just because it's supposed to be so, it's so that the human animal could seek such pleasures, which are the pre-cursor of a bigger goal - to create. You've then it explained yourself - that should you touch fire, you will not repeat the process, and should you then engage in intimate activities, you want to do it again and again. So in this case, biologically, there is a case for reproduction and I have already pointed that out that the human body is made to most effeciently mate. It's up to you, do you then go along with the flow of sensual goals of the body without restraints, or be enlightened, enquire why the natural drive as compared to the result of such a process and then decide if you want to control your mind, or let your impulses control you. Remember, to be enlightened is not a position that is pleasurable. Reason hurts more than it pleasures. So really, it's fire and you can't even go along with the 'natural' flow once you touch this fire called knowledge because you've realised how devoid of value it actually is, this sexuality. Logic doesn't allow you to. Reality can be depressing at times for those engulfed with material existence, but if you think about it, it's worth it. It really is.
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Posted 10/09/09 - 08:23 AM:	#12
Sexual Addiction or Sexual Fixation? We due tend to laugh at things we are afraid of, do not fully understand or are insecure about. Perhaps you are centered on this isssue and fail to see the problem and conflict in the others around you. If so, write a book as soon as possible and there will be a market out there. You'll be able to afford even more time in creative writing and have a lot of fun along the way. If you really want to make an impact, just throw a tape measure into a high school shower room. Perhaps this would make for a good topic in your creative writing class. Meow! GREG
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Posted 10/10/09 - 12:18 AM:	#13
There's no such thing.

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Posted 10/10/09 - 12:31 AM:	#14
"There's no such thing." Another case of one being able to rise above moral constraints! Hurrah! Meow! GREG
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Posted 10/10/09 - 12:36 AM:	#15
Morality doesn't even come into play.

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Posted 10/12/09 - 02:47 AM:	#16
joehasgotquestions wrote: Today I was in my creative writing college class and someone said that a character in their story has a sex addiction which confused me. I asked what he meant by this and the teacher replied that having sex many times objectifies you(makes you into an object). But we are all objects, the same arguement can be used when someone tells a joke and you laugh. They become an object of comedy. Another thing he said was that it's only an addiction if it hurts your normal life, like going to work. Well i enjoy going to work but if I had to choose, I would choose having sex. I'm working to have an enjoyable life which involves having sex. He further went on to say that it's an addiction if people put of important things to be with the person they are having sex with. I have seen people choose people over important things in their life. Some people move to different states just to be with someone. This doesn't have to be someone you are having sex with, could be a friend or a family. Are you to say that a husband who has sex with his wife many times of the day has a sex addiction? Well then so what? My arguement was that it didn't seem like the character had a sex addiction but an addiction to have validation through sex which is more about validation. Saying sex addiction seemed to demonize the like for sex. What do you guys think? Ironic how close psychology and ethics are, no?

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Posted 10/12/09 - 02:55 AM:	#17
Os - "Morality doesn't even come into play." Again, you have risen above. Unfortunately psycology is founded in Morals, Mores and social Dogmas. You are a therapists nightmare. They need to collect unemployment check soon if you keep this up. Meow! GREG
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Posted 10/13/09 - 09:26 PM:	#18
To joehasgotquestions original question, I would agree with you that the writer was demonizing the like for sex and using addiction as the cover for that perception. I would have also argued that there are people that have sex for work, so does this mean that they can not become addicted since it's their job? I find that many "addictions" are just a control mechanism for society to conform to its standards. You have to observe if you are allowing something to control you from experiencing what you are truly seeking to experience and then change your actions to reach your desired goals... even if this means you want to have more sex in your life. Desidude666 wrote: ...don't assume that sexual activity to be merely a process of entertainment, it is a powerful process. You are Gods to an extent, capable of giving birth to a potential human being, a different personality... ...the process itself should always be regarded as primarily 'creation'. Should you disregard the importance of such an endeavour, you will always be not just addicted to it (as you can be addicted to alcohol) but also be responsible for giving life to others without proper 'ethical and moral' considerations. wait... so you're implying that sex outside of creation of life is just addiction and/or worthless? Does this imply that someone that is sterile or using contraceptives should not engage in sex because there is no "greater purpose"? Desidude666 wrote: On a more serious note, it's best to avoid the process if you have the Will. Such activities have no value at all to personal intellectual growth. No value whatsoever. I think this is subjective, no? To engage in sex is to gain insight into what is physically pleasurable to both you and your lover. Exploring your sexuality is to gain personal intellectual growth I would think. Desidude666 wrote: It's up to you, do you then go along with the flow of sensual goals of the body without restraints, or be enlightened, enquire why the natural drive as compared to the result of such a process and then decide if you want to control your mind, or let your impulses control you. Why not both? Can't we enquire why and then enjoy something for other reasons then its intended evolutionary purpose?

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Posted 10/13/09 - 11:26 PM:	#19
forbid wrote: wait... so you're implying that sex outside of creation of life is just addiction and/or worthless? Does this imply that someone that is sterile or using contraceptives should not engage in sex because there is no "greater purpose"? Yes, it exclusively is a process of creating life, once you value it to that level, you would restrict yourself anyway. Sterility in itself is not a prized position to be in, but yes, if you engage yourself in it just for the 'sake' of it, then you should restrain. Adoption is always an option anyway. forbid wrote: I think this is subjective, no? To engage in sex is to gain insight into what is physically pleasurable to both you and your lover. Exploring your sexuality is to gain personal intellectual growth I would think. Intellectual, I think not. Personal analysis, probably. But there is a need for maturity - restraint. In fact, once you realise how worthless it really is, you'd probably not pay much attention to it anyway. It comes with wisdom and restraint. forbid wrote: Why not both? Can't we enquire why and then enjoy something for other reasons then its intended evolutionary purpose? Beginning probably, but when you achieve maturity, it's either accept knowledge or emotional gratification. It's either - or, not both. Once you've grown.
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Posted 10/14/09 - 06:48 AM:	#20
Desidude666 wrote: forbid wrote: wait... so you're implying that sex outside of creation of life is just addiction and/or worthless? Does this imply that someone that is sterile or using contraceptives should not engage in sex because there is no "greater purpose"? Yes, it exclusively is a process of creating life, once you value it to that level, you would restrict yourself anyway. Sterility in itself is not a prized position to be in, but yes, if you engage yourself in it just for the 'sake' of it, then you should restrain. You seem to be affirming the consequent for the sake of your argument. Just because we have evolved to enjoy sex so that we will procreate does not mean sex for procreation is the only truth. Desidude666 wrote: forbid wrote: Why not both? Can't we enquire why and then enjoy something for other reasons then its intended evolutionary purpose? Beginning probably, but when you achieve maturity, it's either accept knowledge or emotional gratification. It's either - or, not both. Once you've grown. And this is a false dilemma. We have the capacity to accept knowledge and emotional gratification without having to choose one over the other. To seek and accept knowledge is its self an emotional gratification, so they are not mutually exclusive. While a piece of maturity may be the ability to control ones drive to excess making the argument that sex outside of procreation is an excess is fallacy. Sex has been scientifically shown to have benefits outside of procreation that occur each time sexual intercourse is engaged in. At the same time engaging in sex does not always result in a new life being created, even when that sex is unprotected for the purpose of attempting to create life. So in this scenario where sex did not result in life, was sex only for emotional gratification and therefor excess (immature) as it did not result in its "exclusive process"? I would have to say no.

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