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PontificatingChauncy
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Posted 05/23/08 - 09:00 PM:
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If it is within the scope of a person's abilities to do great and glorious things, is it selfish to instead choose a life of simple contentment? And more importantly, is this selfish on an unethical scale?
Some things I feel I should add to the question:
I'm not talking about choosing hedonism: the life you choose to live will be very normal and hardworking. An example would be the sterotype of the brilliant Roman general who just wants to go home and be a farmer.
Although you will be doing a job that is very difficult and not something you want, it will result in you being powerful, widely known and loved, economically comfortable and possibly historical.
The thing you are doing will ultimately be benificial to the people around you, possibly nesscesary.

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Posted 05/23/08 - 09:28 PM:
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They are your talents. Yours. Not anybody else's. It is up to you to use those talents in any way you want that isn't wrong, and nobody can tell you otherwise. You are under no obligation to do anything with your talents. You simply are to not use them for evil. (wow that sounded kinda corny)
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Posted 05/24/08 - 01:31 AM:
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So that's a yes selfish, no immoral?
And if your with holding something good, are you not in fact doing evil?

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Posted 05/24/08 - 04:47 AM:
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Does the general get pleasure from doing hard work at the farm? Is he bored with being a general? One can ask why else the general would choose to work at the farm. How do you define hedonism?

Anyways the world in which everyone would waste their talents would be one in which you would not want to live in, so yes, it would not be ethical to do so, however I think there is room to choose a bit between talents you have, especially if you have many that you can't develope all. Being an ethical duty, it is not something that can be legislated over, still one can encourage people to develope their talents.


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Posted 05/24/08 - 06:44 AM:
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PontificatingChauncy wrote:

And if you're withholding something good, are you not in fact doing evil?


This would not be true if you allowed for the category of the supererogatory, which common sense at least allows for: that some actions would be good but not therefore obligatory (e.g. charity).

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Posted 05/24/08 - 10:19 AM:
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So that's a yes selfish, no immoral?
And if your with holding something good, are you not in fact doing evil?




Of course not. There is no such thing as "withholding good" in the way you speak of. There is simply "not doing evil" and that's it.
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Posted 05/24/08 - 10:39 AM:
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I think that the sole purpose in life is to be happy, and create happiness for others. Not in the way that probably comes to mind, of almost christian morals of 'love thy neighbour', but in a more worldly sense, like a kind old man, who lives in the woods, and takes in travelers. (Which is sorta contradictory, because by taking in travelers, he is loving his neighbour) But I digress, No to selfish, and no to immoral. Your life is just that, your life, and if you choose to be a farmer when you could very well be a Roman general, then that's your choice, and so long as you're happy, then your life purpose is fulfilled.

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Posted 05/24/08 - 05:18 PM:
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Does the general get pleasure from doing hard work at the farm? Is he bored with being a general? One can ask why else the general would choose to work at the farm. How do you define hedonism?


Yes, because that's just an example. And I wouldn't say he's bored so much as that he feels no pleasure at the exercise of power: He doesn't feel a rush of power when he knows about his men's unquestioning loyalty or a decisive victory; he just feels the burden of command. As a farmer he wouldn't be directly responsible for other people's problems or defending the empire. He could just relax, mind his own buissiness, sleep in once in a while.

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Posted 05/26/08 - 07:39 PM:
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So allow me to throw a monkey wrench into the topic.

What if your talent happens to be (as the world might see it) evil? Hitler, Stalin, and Caligula were all quite good at what they did -- as unpleasant as it was.

Edited by Postmodern Beatnik on 05/27/08 - 09:37 AM. Reason: punctuation

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Posted 05/26/08 - 08:18 PM:
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PontificatingChauncy wrote:
If it is within the scope of a person's abilities to do great and glorious things, is it selfish to instead choose a life of simple contentment? And more importantly, is this selfish on an unethical scale?


There is no duty, or moral obligate, one has to use one's talents. One's talents are purely his, they belong to no one else. It would only be unethical and immoral (on a selfish scale) if others forced him to use his talents for their or his own good. A person lives his life for his sake and his sake alone, not to serve the interests of his community or those who would benefit from his talents.

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