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Video Game and Movie Violence (moved from Ethics)

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Posted 05/10/04 - 08:27 AM:	#1
I'm a person who finds video game violence to be nihilist, not completely so because it is found to be fun by some. Should I play a War game or other first person shooting games. I want to play a world war 2 war game because I find it to be a moral war but playing the game for reasons other than what can be considered 'sick fun' does not make sense. Some say VG violence is harmless, I dont think so. I am also for PEACE or anti war. The same goes for the other forms of VG violence, 'The good guy killing people.' Movie violence to has the same dillema. Is the meaningless violence worth the thrill and fun.

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Posted 05/10/04 - 08:44 AM:	#2
Humans thirst for blood, and hunger for violence. What is better, killing real people or computer generated ones? Personally, I like guns, fighting, shooting, slashing and hacking. But I don't like to do this to real people. By having so much violence in video games and movies, it allows us to get our fix of action and adventure. When the movie or game is over, we realize that lives may not have the death and destruction, and we can fully appreciate the peace. At least that is how I feel.

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Posted 05/10/04 - 08:54 AM:	#3
Well, I think it's important to note that not all people see violence in the same way. Some people find the participating in war simulations does not effect their psyche. Some people get very involved, and upset over actions in a game. Some find the violence appealing, and some just see it as entertainment. Some people can sit and frag folks all night long, and never be effected by it. Some people shoot each other at Internet Cafe's for it. It depends on the person. One kid ended up quitting his job, and locking himself in his house for months and then killed himself when he was dumped by his online girlfriend... One mother let her two children die in a heated car while she was inside an internet cafe playing Tribes. In Korea, the game Lineage has caused real life gang wars and murders. But it still depends on the person. I think that video games should have more warnings on them. I think that parents should read any and all literature before purchasing a game for their child. I think that ratings are not enough, and anyone who plays them or allows their children to play them should be ultimately responsible for the outcome. If you know your child is prone to fits of anger and rage, they shouldn't be playing violent games. If you know your child is having social issues, you shouldn't allow him to play a game that further seperates him from society by creating a fantasy one. If you have violent tendancies, then you probably shouldn't accentuate that by playing violent games. If you have a tendancy to speed excessively, perhaps you should put away the street racing game. While it's important for the companies that create the products to make sure you know what you are getting, it's up to you to make the decision to partake in the game or movie yourself. It's not like game makers are hiding the truth about their game. Most violent games have a mature rating, and it's stated why (i.e. Extreme Violence, Nudity, Adult Language) as well as in movies. It's a parents responsibility to look out for a child as well. It's important I guess to remember that what is right and moral for you, may not be right and moral for someone else. Viewing violence does not cause violence, there are other factors involved such as mental illness and immaturity.

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Posted 05/10/04 - 01:48 PM:	#4
Yup, I love blowing stuff up personally. However, I very much agree with an anti-war life. Its a pipe dream, but a nice one. Anyhow, I'm a Quake player, and I'm not really in it for the violence. Its a lazy man's paintball (which I also play). Its fun, it helps develop teamworking skills, hand eye cooridination, and there are studies out there which suggest FPS actually improve such areas as visual recognition. Plus, on a video game I can kill you infinite amounts of time. In real life, I only get to do it once, and its pretty messy from what I've heard.

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Posted 05/11/04 - 06:51 AM:	#5
megashawn wrote: Plus, on a video game I can kill you infinite amounts of time. In real life, I only get to do it once, and its pretty messy from what I've heard. There are so many better things to be done with time. You only get 24 hours a day and I spend very little playing VG (personally I like strategy games like Civilization 3). You could spend your time reading a good book or learning yoga
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Posted 05/11/04 - 07:53 AM:	#6
Until recently I worked as a video game programmer, so I've given a lot of thought to the issue of video game violence. I think that few people play video games for the violence. People play games for the actual gaming/strategy element and the violence is just to give the game an interesting context; that is, controlling a man around a battlefield is more interesting that controlling a sphere around a block world. You might find it a bit sick that people find violence interesting but it's the same reason that people find history interesting or why news programmes tend to focus on conflicts. ----- As to whether games can influence people's behaviour (I don't think anyone here has claimed this), I doubt it. At the moment games are a very far-removed form of violence. I think even a very young child could recognise that something like Mortal Kombat is not real-life. I think people wanting to act out a game is about as likely as someone wanting to act out a cartoon.

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Posted 05/11/04 - 07:53 AM:	#7
Until recently I worked as a video game programmer, so I've given a lot of thought to the issue of video game violence. I think that few people play video games for the violence. People play games for the actual gaming/strategy element and the violence is just to give the game an interesting context; that is, controlling a man around a battlefield is more interesting that controlling a sphere around a block world. You might find it a bit sick that people find violence interesting but it's the same reason that people find history interesting or why news programmes tend to focus on conflicts. ----- As to whether games can influence people's behaviour (I don't think anyone here has claimed this), I doubt it. At the moment games are a very far-removed form of violence. I think even a very young child could recognise that something like Mortal Kombat is not real-life. I think people wanting to act out a game is about as likely as someone wanting to act out a cartoon.

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Posted 05/11/04 - 09:40 AM:	#8
if you're influentiable(it just may be a word) enough to be changed just because you play a few violent games then like you need to be fraggged yourself, i play Vice City all the time and I have yet to kill anyone that i know of... but hell you tell me that doing drive bys on a Moped isn't hillarious, you tell me that doing massive jumps because your taxi has hydraulics isn't cool, or trying to fist fight as many cops as you can before you get a warrant level of 3 and teh FBI come, fist fighting the FBI is tough... i however love doing this in game, not irl, because the game teaches me the consequences, i lose 100 DOLLARS!!!, nice cheap hospitals :-), well you all, have fun and remember, violent video games don't kill people, it's just that certain noise they make(-Eddie Izzard)
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Posted 05/12/04 - 01:35 PM:	#9
Books are obsolete. Why read a book for fantasy when we've got movies and games that provide for more fantasy then an old book could ever hope for. And I only read when I need information. My library consists of computer manuals, electronics books, physics books, hayes and chilton manuals. If I want to fantasize, I'll just create my own story in my head, or watch a movie. I'm actually pretty active, in that I'm usually apply some of the knowledge i've gotten, working on cars or something, or I'm riding my dirt bike. Riding a motorcycle the way I do is a martial art, just not formalized.

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Posted 05/12/04 - 02:03 PM:	#10
megashawn wrote: Books are obsolete. Come now... I mean seriously...come on. LOTR's. The movie is good, but lacks the depth of the book. A good book can be filled with detail that a movie simply can not. Likewise, a movie can relay in ways a book can not. Books made movies obsolete long before they even existed. Admit that you simply prefer movies to books, and that they are not obsolete, and you may recieve a reduced sentence.
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