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Abiathar
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Posted 04/28/08 - 03:23 PM: Subject: Universal Balance	#1
The topic in question is simplistic in nature, however bears with it nuances and 'loop' holes. As such the question remains unanswered. Does everything in the universe Balance with itself, or does the universe hold within it situations and objects that have no balancing factor? The examples may be any, from scientific to religious, however I will state that any Omnipotent being I will assume is in balance within itself and as such is set apart from the rest of our plane of existance, as Physics nor Time hold sway... Actions of said entities, however, are not included in that assumption and as such are valid points of reference in what I am looking for. As I have already opinions on this topic myself, I will allow others to take the floor first, atleast for the most part. I will, however, put forth that Everything, universally, balances with atleast one other force.

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Posted 04/28/08 - 11:17 PM:	#2
What does it mean for the universe to be in balance? What do you mean by balance?
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Abiathar
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Posted 04/29/08 - 01:38 PM:	#3
Sorry, allow me to clarify: Universal Balance: All forces equal to a stable functionality of the universe, aka Every Action has an equal and opposite Reaction, even unto Religious theory and mythology..

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Posted 04/29/08 - 02:00 PM:	#4
Every action has an equal and opposite reation is a Newtonian Law. I cannot see its applicability in your question of balance. Perhaps, you should explain further what do you mean by balance? Why don't you lay bare your opinions on this topic? That should paint a clear picture of what you are asking.

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Posted 04/29/08 - 02:18 PM:	#5
Very well, if it will take as much exactitude as I was hoping it would not. In order to do this, I recend my original stand and will therefore change my position against Universal Balance, simply for example. The universe is in a constant, violent state that relies on expansion, contraction, various impacts, volcanism, super novi, black holes, magnetars, quantum physics, symmetry, geometry and most importantly gravity and inertia. Within this harmonious ballet of tiny quarks and mind bogglingly massive galaxies filled with Anti-matter spin around each other and occasionally collide or rebound off of the energies that the other puts off. In this we find out lack of balance. When, in a particle accelerator, two atoms collide, they release more energy than either of them had independant of the other, or even their energy output combined. This we shall begin with our first scientific refute. The simple ratio of energy output to contained energy overrides itself and blows even the quantum gravity of particles apart. Let us then, if it can remove quarks and strangelets from atoms, then it can de-atomize a star in the blinking of an eye if something large enough impacted it. The second scientific refute is a Magnetar. When a Magetar releases a burst of energy, as they often do, it produces enough light energy to shine brighter than the rest of the stars, and galaxies, the universe wide. Its a blinding flash that, if the light energy hit us here on earth, would blind us instantly, and the light alone so energized turn our atmosphere into a rather useless puff of quickly bleeding away air. A gamma ray burst from a Magnetar can be seen across the entire universe, from galaxies millions of lightyears away, and their devestation crosses their entire galaxy that they reside in. This appears to be an unbalanced force of nature as its magnetic pull is also vastly greater than the mass should produce. Now let us delve into religion, this one will be far more simplistic for myself to outline and allow others to expand upon. Does something balance with a diety? Namely an Omnipotent one. And if so, can this entity therefore CHANGE the universal balance, if it exists, and create disharmony in the system. With this I ask again, is Newton correct? )And Yiming check your PMs, its in the upper right corner.)

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Posted 04/30/08 - 08:14 PM:	#6
Abiathar, you are offering scientific theories to extract arguments. You are behaving like a Jesuit priest seeking debate on the Holy Trinity. Is this philosophy? As for Newton, he is correct. I did the experiment in high school to confirm the truth of his law.

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Posted 05/07/08 - 04:44 AM:	#7
Can we talk about the universe as governed? Perhaps this will account for the internal chaos. More over, what do you think of dialectics in this regard? Saying that everything could be balancing against itself is not alien to dialectics which extends from the material to the ideational. I don't know about deities balancing. Its hard to theorize about something you don't believe in.

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Posted 05/08/08 - 06:25 PM: Subject: Balance and God	#8
The only way I can see to state that the universe is in complete balance, even with a supreme being, would be to say that this supreme being is either everything or the balance itself. In a sense, God would be the yin and yang. It is hard to say that the universe is in a state of equilibrium, but one can say that the entirety of the universe is while at certain moments and places there are imbalances. As the yin yang swirls around one overtakes the other at certain moments of time. This doesn't quite explain the shades of grey that appear in the world. Not everything can be defined as black and white polar opposites.

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