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Posted 02/03/06 - 12:52 PM:	#51
I guess that's the kind of thing you could learn in a feminist class, huh? -Floyd
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Posted 02/03/06 - 02:47 PM:	#52
Feminism classes should be scraped. It isn't useful in a Patriarchal society like ours ie., in the west. It makes women think that they have more power than they actually have- or deserve. What happened to women just looking after their man? i mean come on, "happiness is a warm gun" we've all heard that song huh? However, i don't entirely believe that. What i do believe is that "feminism" can be over-worked and that this itself can cause problems for men and women alike- i personally dont see much difference between ourselves. We all want the same goods that life has to offer etc., If there is an issue of inequality, or sexism, then this should be addressed, i don't think lumping the problem into "feminism" wins any points. So drop the feminism! =) edited the post and lost all those wise words of mine. I think i also made a slip- i said "matriarchal" rather than "patriarchal" however, i have rectified the situation to the way it ought to be. Edited by doitintheroad on 02/04/06 - 07:47 AM
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Posted 02/03/06 - 03:07 PM:	#53
doitintheroad wrote: it just keeps the divide open- and gives room for people to women-bash and similarly gives arch-feminists paranoid delusions about men wanting to beat them down all the time- when that ain't true. It is true that some people use victimization to entitle them to mistreat others and obtain power. Any aspect of the feminist movement that embraces this does women more harm than good. Overall, the treatment of women is rather good in western society, but they are not equal to men.If you have not experienced, or personally observed, environments in which women are treated in a suppressive, abusive manner, it is better not to speak for them or assume that it isn't happening. For those who are very young and haven't experienced domestic abuse or rape, there is not much evidence of inequality at school, compared to other environments. Many of the teachers are women, and students are generally treated equality in regard to gender. There are issues that need addressing still in the larger context of society.
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Posted 02/03/06 - 03:15 PM:	#54
It is indeed a pleasant surprise how the so-called 'woman question' as raised by the feminists in our midst has generated a lot of response, for or against. For whatever this is worth, allow me to submit my view on the subject, if I may. It is quite logical to be feminist in worldview if you were a woman than man. In short, it is rather self-serving that any women's organization still need to advocate some self-serving interests. I like to believe that in an open society, no single man can discriminate against any pack of women, or on a one-on-one basis for that matter, just no nobody. Male or female, either one has what it takes to do whatever task, make whatever face, and all that. So what must distinguish one for the other if not their mere biological make up in terms of their reproductive systems, if I may so state. Then, there seems to be a commonly-held perception that woman's moods swing from north to south and all that kind of stuff and than men, at least generally thought, does not swing, if ever it just stays. But speaking of a single human nature, is that of women really one of pendulum? Maybe not. What do psychoanalysts might have to say on the subject? At least in terms of given stimuli, human beings can only either tend toward a stimulus or tend away from it. So depending on the set of stimuli, men or women will tend in a particular way and if were are to get some statistical facts, we can gather that men and women alike may actually manifest similar or dissimilar behavior or moods for that matter. I therefore believe that nothing differentiates a man and a woman. However, if placed in a relationship where one is subject of the 'domestic leadership' of a man, then some givens must be laid. For instance, does the woman agree to subordinate herself to the man or vice-versa. It involves the willingness to regulate or deregulate one's freedom. A freedom regulated or deregulated is not a freedom violated, or is it?