longfun wrote:


forming a picture:
In this present now, you it before your pc in a room. There are many objects within this room. There are probably many individuals within this room.
EACH one of you — each individual present within this room — is creating every object within this room, and creating the room, and creating the building, and creating the street upon which the building sits, and creating all of the action that is occurring presently in this now. EACH of you is creating your OWN reality.

You are not all creating your IDEA of a reality that already exists. You are each simultaneously creating the actual reality. Therefore, the viewing of any object or any individual within this present room shall be different as perceived by each individual, for each individual is creating all of the other individuals.

And you may be expressing to yourselves, “How may this be? I am not creating all of these other individuals that sit within this room.” But you are!
They also are creating all of the individuals sitting within this room. This room or world presently is quite crowded with many, many, many, many, many individuals!

You are all creating your individual groups of individuals beside the individuals that are creating themselves, and you are each creating yourselves also.(look at for ex. the racist or philosofy -groups)
Therefore, you (looking at one person) are creating yourself presently, and you are creating another physical, solid matter, moving, breathing projection of every other individual within this room, and so are they all.

Each of you allows yourself to be subjectively interactive with the others that are participating in this physical manifestation we call life, and therefore, you allow yourselves a type of blueprint, so to speak, of the manifestation of each focus of each other essence presence, and from that blueprint, you create your own design of each individual present within this room, and as you interact with each other, each of you interacts with the individual that you yourself have created through your perception.
So clearly there is nothing weird about it.... you observed the monster so logically you created him.

unenlightened wrote:

I want to talk about recognition.
The nature of reality does not matter to this question.
When you see a whomever, however you conceptualise that, there is a recognition - this is a computer, that is a chair, there is the wall and the light switch, and there, right over there is one like me.
I don't care at this point who is the creator of all this, but I want to say, in contradiction to the tradition of introspection, cartesian or otherwise, that I discover myself out there as a discoverer, by being discovered.
The inwardness I feel as an agent in the world is first seen in me by agents in the world, and there is no way to see it on my own.
So all your theory of how I create the outer comes later; first I need a sense of self, and that is what interests me right now.
So it is rather important to respond to what is being said, rather than rushing off into a theory of reality which presupposes the theoretician.

Look, you are one of those things like me, that can talk bollocks. This is an important thing to notice. Whether the world is made of bollocks or not, we can discuss later. I have discovered you as 'like me' discovering me 'like you'. Start there, and see what happens.

Desidude666 wrote:
As our reaction to appreciation, he will either proceed with an encore or look to improve his play. My point has been that his 'appreciation' has been temporary - and it will not really be realised until he acts. He cannot be 'appreciated' all the time - however, should he act to further his own goal (suppose, he might better his co-ordination), he might react and realise his reactions.

Your mindset cannot be permanent, it's impossible. Your actions are, as they are tangible.

Desidude666 wrote:
That is the reaction to the action that makes him think he is different from you.

Desidude666 wrote:
How do you suggest you 'study' a mindset of a person who has existed about 1000 years ago? How can you understand a 'mind' without actions? Is it worth understanding at all?

Desidude666 wrote:
Nope, instead I suggest that we maintain ourselves, realise the magnitude of possibilities our actions might bring and act with consideration. Simple suggestion, if complied with - brings immediate tangible results.