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The problem of evil: a theodicy

Crackers
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Posted 07/05/09 - 06:40 AM:	#21
Aetixintro wrote: Crackers, dear, "the problem of evil" is only considered in the case of a "God". I was under the impression that it was an assertion that God exist and therefore "this" follows, rather than a "if God exists, then. . ." Frankly, I don't see the point on arguing over an hypothetical "if" in this case. It's merely a bundle of needless assumptions -- "God exists", "God is creating the best possible world" -- which renders any conclusion invalid. I was trying to undermine the assumptions, I wasn't aware that you were assuming such a ridiculous position for the sake of arguing over the finer details of said position. I thought you were attempting to make observations of reality, not writing fiction.

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Posted 07/05/09 - 06:47 AM:	#22
This is about Religion. It's thereby undeclared whether the statements reflect Reality or Fiction in the strictly objective sense.
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Posted 07/05/09 - 06:52 AM:	#23
My posts were made to declare it fiction. Which is a meaningful distinction, considerng it was easy to assume that you were asserting that it wasn't completely fictional. If this is "about religion" then my posts are justified, considering that it was unknown that you were prohibiting anti-religious positions from this thread.

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Posted 07/05/09 - 06:57 AM:	#24
Crackers wrote: Which is a meaningful distinction, considerng it was easy to assume that you were asserting that it wasn't completely fictional. Your assumption isn't justified, I think.
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Posted 07/14/09 - 09:59 PM:	#25
the PC apeman wrote: So if there's evil in the world then that's just the part of the world that God didn't create, right? Did something else create that part? If I may jump in. I think the answer to that is yes, something else did create that part. It was the introduction of free will ( a good thing) which created the potential for the existence of evil. It was the exercise of free will in opposition to God's will that brought about the existence of evil.

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Posted 07/14/09 - 10:05 PM:	#26
Crackers wrote: My posts were made to declare it fiction. Which is a meaningful distinction, considerng it was easy to assume that you were asserting that it wasn't completely fictional. If this is "about religion" then my posts are justified, considering that it was unknown that you were prohibiting anti-religious positions from this thread. An assertion that God does not exist is just as religious as an assertion that He does. The problem of evil is based entirely on the assumption that God is all-good, all-knowing, created the universe and allowed evil to exist within it. The epistemology of God's existence is not in question for the sake of this discussion. If your solution to the problem is to suggest that God does not exist then we thank you for your input and you may move along as you apparently do not wish to participate in the actual discussion and have nothing pertinent to add.

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