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LastLegend
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Posted 02/03/07 - 10:45 PM:
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I don't think I am smarter than einstein, but I don't think time exists

How do we know time exist?


What the fucck is up with this shit,
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Is this a philosophy forum or an english class

I am not a native speaker
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Posted 02/04/07 - 08:34 AM:
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LastLegend wrote:
I don't think I am smarter than einstein, but I don't think time exists

How do we know time exist?


What the fucck is up with this shit,

Is this a philosophy forum or an english class

I am not a native speaker


There are no rules. Dont worry about details
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Posted 02/04/07 - 10:17 AM:
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Petrochik wrote:
There is no such a thing as time I personally beleive.

LastLegend wrote:
I don't think time exists


Then what do clocks measure?
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Posted 02/04/07 - 10:53 AM:
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Then what do clocks measure?



Think again of what you said.
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Posted 02/04/07 - 01:52 PM:
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Then what do clocks measure?


Whatever it measures.

In my opinion, time is just an expression of change in matter and engery.

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Posted 02/04/07 - 02:09 PM:
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LastLegend wrote:
I don't think I am smarter than einstein, but I don't think time exists...


LastLegend wrote:
In my opinion, time is just an expression of change in matter and engery.


So it doesn't exist but it is an expression of change in matter and energy?
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Posted 02/04/07 - 02:30 PM:
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Think again of what you said.


I will take this as an assertion of one the following three things. You weren't very explicit in your argument, so I'm not sure which one to answer.

1) Clocks don't measure anything
2) Clocks measure something that doesn't exist.
3) Clocks do not exist.

Getting over this hump will allow us to continue over into a meaningful argument about how to separate 'things' from 'non-things.' Otherwise, we would simply be engaging in savvy.
There were two hydrogen atoms sitting at a bar. One of them looked very sad, and was crying into his whiskey, and so the other asked, "What's wrong?" The first atom looked up for a moment, paused, and said, "I've lost an electron." The second looked surprised, such a thing was unimaginable, and replied, "Are you sure?" To which the first responded, "Yes, I'm positive."
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Posted 02/04/07 - 02:45 PM:
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I will take this as an assertion of one the following three things. You weren't very explicit in your argument, so I'm not sure which one to answer.

1) Clocks don't measure anything
2) Clocks measure something that doesn't exist.
3) Clocks do not exist.

Getting over this hump will allow us to continue over into a meaningful argument about how to separate 'things' from 'non-things.' Otherwise, we would simply be engaging in savvy.


Good I liked that. No offense my friend. Sorry if it made you feel this way, it was not intended.

Clocks follow a specific movement that is common in every clock produced to meet the standards of the world time. This time was set in the 14th century if I am not mistaken.
It is plastic/steel/iron/gold/silver wheels that are structured/placed in a way to drive the hour/minute "hand" on a circular movement in order indicate reference points on a circular image designed with numbers each of which indicate a specific point of reference.

Edited by Petrochik on 02/04/07 - 03:15 PM
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Posted 02/04/07 - 07:51 PM:
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So it doesn't exist but it is an expression of change in matter and energy?


You must be a philosopher, or at least you claim to be one because no matter what I say you will always have something to say.

I don't think time can exist without energy and matter. So time is nothing, and don't tell me nothing is something and don't ask me to explain what time is either because you will always have something to say.

To keep it short, time in my opinion doesn't exist.
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Posted 02/04/07 - 09:15 PM:
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Good I liked that. No offense my friend. Sorry if it made you feel this way, it was not intended.

Clocks follow a specific movement that is common in every clock produced to meet the standards of the world time. This time was set in the 14th century if I am not mistaken.
It is plastic/steel/iron/gold/silver wheels that are structured/placed in a way to drive the hour/minute "hand" on a circular movement in order indicate reference points on a circular image designed with numbers each of which indicate a specific point of reference.


Is this the only way we 'measure time?' Years and days are measured in completely different ways. We also have gravitational clocks, atomic clocks, and 'biological clocks?' If we didn't care about being very precise in our measurements, we could define the 'second' as the amount of time it takes a sleeping kangaroo to inhale and exhale at 70 degrees Fahrenheit and one Atmosphere of pressure couldn't we? Or we could call a 'week' the amount of time it takes for a tree to decompose in the Amazon, The 'Supremum' the amount of time it takes for the planets in our solar system to align from the last instance in which they were aligned, the 'year' the amount of time it takes for the distance between our local group and the nearest local group to double etc... The challenge I put to you is: Can you name a single event that cannot be used to define an increment of time?
There were two hydrogen atoms sitting at a bar. One of them looked very sad, and was crying into his whiskey, and so the other asked, "What's wrong?" The first atom looked up for a moment, paused, and said, "I've lost an electron." The second looked surprised, such a thing was unimaginable, and replied, "Are you sure?" To which the first responded, "Yes, I'm positive."
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