yolandayeti wrote:
Master Therion! Yes, of course, I should have guessed. Who else could it possibly be but Master Therion!

Distortion wrote:
Asking for a common goal among all society is almost like asking for a common theme in all music. It's mostly practically useless, because there is so much diversity, and it's hard to be in any way objective about it.

One thing you can say about society that few people will dispute is that it exists, and has existed for a while, and - as far as we can tell - will continue on existing. From this one constant, we can extrapolate the simple fact that the goal of survival, existence, procreation, continuation - whatever you would like to call it - is essentially a commonality among all society.

froclown wrote:
No, the children need to learn strong "self-discipline" not to obey authority.

My eample was if the Childs, Will is to go play and his passion leats hit to break a cup, the natural consequence is that he must make a new cup. Thus an undisciplined moment resutls in a loss of a day's work.

You see, If you alow your immediate passions to guide you, then you miss out on your long term goals. The child must learn to pay attention ot what he is doing and to develop himself that he can accomplish his Will better in the future. Thus if the child is on a nature walk with his father, and is caught day-dreaming, it may be advisible to trip him, that he learns to focus on what he is doing. Letting the attention wander leads it away from the Task at hand, carelessness interfers with the Will.

My point is that society is an association between individuals so that every individuals can pursue his own Will, more productively. The baker Bakes, because it is his Will to bake, he finds his joy and purpose in baking. Those whose Will's lie elsewhere are greatful for the baker, because they too need bread.

When you bring money into the issue for example, the Baker is not concerned with riches, not in the act of backing, so many a scoundrel may take up baking to ensure his wealth, and you can be assured, the quality of the product is not his concern.

It takes strong discipline for the baker to work hard and ensure the quality of the bread, but the psychological and physical rewards are great for both the baker and the society.

Practice something 10 times and it is hard, practice it 100 times and itn becomes easy, practice it 10,000 time and it becomes hard again. IAO

"Pure Will, unassuaged of purpose, free from the lust of result, is perfect in every way"

If everyone sticks ot his Will and simple does what he Will's do to, without falling into external temptations to leave his work for some lesser reward or out of an imposed fear, then Society achieves it's Goal.

Master Therion, Is the title of Crowley as Magus. The Magus being larger than but not necessarily seperate than the man. It's not wise to worship the Man or the Beast. However they do deserve some degree or reverence.

If you must worship something, let it be the Star and the snake.
I'll let you to figure out the tantric meanings there of.