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Some questions about Socrates

Some questions about Socrates

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Posted 10/20/09 - 05:42 AM: Subject: Knowledge	#1
Knowledge is come from our thinking with observation, thus it is limited to what we have observed. Edited by alanhere on 10/31/09 - 10:44 PM

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Posted 10/20/09 - 06:03 AM:	#2
It is really rather boring when you just copy out your homework questions and hope that someone will do it all for you. You will likely get a much better response if you say what you think so far, and indicate that you have perhaps read a paragraph of the philosophers concerned. It is much more pleasant to be in a conversation than to be used as convenience.
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0 of 1 people found this post helpful Posted 10/20/09 - 03:02 PM:	#3
What use would making him think about answers be? It's all obviously rote knowledge. Give the person a pat on the head and the answers. The mark will only change from having zero and having a supossed value to it. Anyways... which Socrates are you talking about?
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1 of 1 people found this post helpful Posted 10/21/09 - 03:22 PM:	#4
alanhere wrote: Moral Knowledge 1. what critique does Socrates give of the knowledge that his contemporaries claimed to have? 2. what kind of knowledge is Socrates interested in and why? 3. One of the things Socrates is accused of in his search for knowledge is corrupting the young.What argument does Socrates give in reply this charge, and what does this say about the knowledge he has or does not have? 4. Descartes also is interested in knowledge. How and why do his interests in knowledge differ from those of Socrates? 5. What is there about both Socrates's and Descartes's apporach to knowing that help us understand what it is to be a philosopher? 1. Socrates wanted to show that the main teachers who purported to teach, and thus have virtue, did not actually know what their virtues are. Socrates wants to show that wisdom is the all encompassing virtue, with sub-parts of courage, knowledge and self-control. 2. He is interested in moral knowledge, and one having wisdom allows one to possess that skill as a virtue. He has 2 main paradoxes: That one can possess moral knowledge as a virtue. If one possesses this virtue, then they themselves will never do wrong, as those who have this virtue, will always do right. 3. Socrates was accused of talking ill of Athenian gods, he questioned everything- and he taught young men to do the same, which annoyed powerful and rich people. Socrates says that he is wiser than most because he knows that he knows the limits of his knowledge. 4&5. I have no real idea, but I'll take a pot-shot and say that they were both idealists and rationalists. They were both into foundationalism, and Descartes made his foundation "I think, therefore, I am" and Socrates' foundation was the virtues.
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Posted 10/21/09 - 07:54 PM:	#5
drops a rock. That is morally right.
"...There was a writer who asked why it was that when we find positive experiences we say that only the physical facts are real, but in negative experiences we believe that reality is subjective. He made an example of those who say that in birth only the pain is real, the joy a subjective point of view, but that in death it is the emotional loss that is the reality." - Tony Ballantyne, Recursion. _____________________________________________ Truth is want. - The internal state of matters. Truth is Need. - The external state of affairs.

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Posted 10/21/09 - 07:56 PM:	#6
There is no way of learning like the hard way... Don't pick it up Cad.
I am more interested in questions than answers; dialog than dictation. If we can reasonably believe that there is not just a breach, but a fundamentally unclosable gap between the individual mind and the ultimate nature of the reality; the primordial thing in itself, then 'true' mystery does exist.

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