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Nickelodeon
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Posted 01/03/07 - 12:28 PM: Subject: Site Slowness	#1
Is it me or is this site a bit slow? It seems to takes ages to repsond.

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Posted 01/03/07 - 04:00 PM:	#2
Depends on when you look. I've banned yahoo to try to help, since it's the worst abuser. Might try banning MSN as well.
_____________________ "If a statement is made, it is to be confronted with the totality of existing statements. If it agrees with them, it is joined to them; if it does not agree, it is called 'untrue' and rejected; or the existing complex of statements of science is modified so that the new statement can be incorporated." - Otto Neurath

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Posted 01/04/07 - 11:32 AM:	#3
Seriously, am I the only one with this problem? I'm accessing it from the UK, and I have broadband. I don't have this probelm with any other sites. There is a sort of "lag" which is annoying.

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Posted 01/04/07 - 01:44 PM:	#4
This page was created in 7.76 seconds. If you don't like that, send me a thousand dollars and I'll make it faster.
_____________________ "If a statement is made, it is to be confronted with the totality of existing statements. If it agrees with them, it is joined to them; if it does not agree, it is called 'untrue' and rejected; or the existing complex of statements of science is modified so that the new statement can be incorporated." - Otto Neurath

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Posted 01/05/07 - 06:39 AM:	#5
OK I'll wire you the money. By the time you receive it I'll be long dead.

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Posted 01/05/07 - 09:50 PM:	#6
Planning an immediate suicide?
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Posted 01/05/07 - 10:17 PM:	#7
He's wiring via PF. A thousand dollars would really fix that lag?

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Posted 01/06/07 - 08:16 AM:	#8
But I can understand his feeling... There are times when I just wish it'd be a bit quicker. A thousand dollars, eh? Hummmm...has me thinking. (reaching into pocket and pulling out some old, scratched up one and ten yen coins...) Well, on second thought, I'm happy just to be here !

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Posted 01/06/07 - 04:17 PM:	#9
Alford_Korztein wrote: A thousand dollars would really fix that lag? Well, possibly. Upgrading from the current $60/month VPS to a $100/month option might do it... if not, a dedicated server in the neighborhood of $150/month ought to do it. No way to know for sure though.
_____________________ "If a statement is made, it is to be confronted with the totality of existing statements. If it agrees with them, it is joined to them; if it does not agree, it is called 'untrue' and rejected; or the existing complex of statements of science is modified so that the new statement can be incorporated." - Otto Neurath

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Posted 01/10/07 - 04:47 PM:	#10
Erm... i think it depends on what type of cache control you guys are using, and what type of coding you use. Other then that its probally host side... I haven't experienced any problems so far...

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Posted 01/10/07 - 05:50 PM:	#11
I've played around with creating cache systems but haven't found it effective. I'll probably try again at some point. I will remind everyone it was very slow under vBulletin too though.
_____________________ "If a statement is made, it is to be confronted with the totality of existing statements. If it agrees with them, it is joined to them; if it does not agree, it is called 'untrue' and rejected; or the existing complex of statements of science is modified so that the new statement can be incorporated." - Otto Neurath

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Posted 01/12/07 - 07:13 AM:	#12
I've switched over from the mysql to mysqli PHP extension, and this should theoretically makes things faster. How much so remains to be seen.
_____________________ "If a statement is made, it is to be confronted with the totality of existing statements. If it agrees with them, it is joined to them; if it does not agree, it is called 'untrue' and rejected; or the existing complex of statements of science is modified so that the new statement can be incorporated." - Otto Neurath

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Posted 07/27/07 - 09:12 AM:	#13
You're not the only one Nick. I find this site incredibly slow, and I'm posting from the UK too (if that's relevent). More than this, however, the site will frequently time out completely and refuse to load new pages to the extent that I save every post into word or the clipboard before I click the send button because I fear my text (or some of the text, as happened 20 mins ago) will get lost when I inevitably have to press refresh, or click back and then click send again. I'm new to this forum, but judging by the 'Similar Topics' box at the bottom, this isn't a new issue. I see you've got a sponsor link at the bottom (Sponsor), and a lot of active members, so if cash for a new PC or more bandwidth is necessary, then how about a drive to resolve the problem.

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Posted 07/27/07 - 10:18 AM:	#14
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Posted 07/27/07 - 12:13 PM:	#15
Yes, I am aware of that. I posted that link in my post.

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Posted 07/27/07 - 01:24 PM:	#16
I can't recall a single time that the site has timed out while I attempted to make a post. I imagine it's much more likely to if you paste stuff from Microsoft Word, though, since Microsoft Word makes an incredible mess of everything it touches and thus makes posts take longer to parse. I haven't seen any page timeout in a year or so as far as I can recall, except the "edit post" page for an MS Word paste Gramm made yesterday. The page creation times for viewing threads that I'm seeing lately are mostly around 2 seconds, which is very reasonable, much improved over the 7 seconds mentioned in post 4.
_____________________ "If a statement is made, it is to be confronted with the totality of existing statements. If it agrees with them, it is joined to them; if it does not agree, it is called 'untrue' and rejected; or the existing complex of statements of science is modified so that the new statement can be incorporated." - Otto Neurath

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Posted 07/27/07 - 04:42 PM:	#17
Sorry, I don't use Word to post items, I use Safari, but I save the information to a word document before I post it because it's not uncommon for the page simply not to load. I've only seen it completely time out on my PC, but this site does load slowly from every PC I've used. If no one else experiences it, I'll accept that I'm anomalous; however, this site has been consistently slow for me since I signed up.

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Posted 07/27/07 - 08:10 PM:	#18
It's slower than most sites, for sure. But that's all. Certain times of day may be slower if lots of people are online, it's possible I'm rarely online at the same time as most. The next version, anyhow, should cut load time by 20% according to internal tests.
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Posted 07/29/07 - 01:39 PM:	#19
hmmm...this is possibly the slowest site I use at all, and it appears to have slowed down over the last couple of months. It has sped up in the last couple of days, though. I have had posts that were lost due to that loading screen after I hit submit...
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Posted 07/29/07 - 04:22 PM:	#20
If you try to load 10 pages in background tabs you can freeze it for a few minutes. Edit: Had a major slowdown today which seemed to result from an antirelayd crash. Edited by Paul on 07/29/07 - 07:16 PM
_____________________ "If a statement is made, it is to be confronted with the totality of existing statements. If it agrees with them, it is joined to them; if it does not agree, it is called 'untrue' and rejected; or the existing complex of statements of science is modified so that the new statement can be incorporated." - Otto Neurath

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Posted 08/01/07 - 06:09 PM:	#21
I'll agree it is slow but I don't find Word to be the problem (great for spell check). It might be my wanky DSL though. If you are running a Tor when trying to access that will cause the site to "timeout." Can't tell if that's because the Tor changes before the page loads totally or not. Anyway I took Opera (browser) off Tor and Privoxy and can add posts before the page completely loads (if I shut the browser in the interum of beginning to write and posting).
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Posted 08/02/07 - 02:43 AM:	#22
Using Microsoft Word for spellchecking a post is like using a hydrogen bomb to kill a spider in your kitchen. Are there any browsers left which don't have a built-in spell check? It's been in Opera and Konqueror for ages, in Firefox since 2.0, I hear it's in Safari, and I presume it's in IE 7. Anyhow the problems with Word are with the WYSIWYG editor so if you use the plain editor it's okay outside of sprinkling a few non-standard characers in your posts. The WYSIWYG problems may be addressed soon as I move to FCKEditor, will have to wait to hear from Word users at that time. Given that Tor's purpose is to make people unidentifiable behind proxies, I'm glad to hear that it doesn't work (though I haven't intentionally disabled it). Though actually I keep the anti-anonymity measures to the registration page, doesn't matter very much if people post masked as long as they left an IP at registration. As for slowness, my tendency to be making posts like this at 2:44AM when there are only 8 members online does color my perspective. Edited by Paul on 08/02/07 - 02:50 AM
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Posted 08/02/07 - 05:12 AM:	#23
Spell check is in Safari. It's in Camino (The Mac Version of Firefox), but it's not compatible on this forum for me. When I post on other sites in the 'Quick Reply' box it comes up with red whenever I make a typo, but not on this forum. But as I said before (trying to stay on topic), I only use Word to save my posts (well the large ones) before I click send because it's not uncommon to lose all my text because the next page doesn't load.

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Posted 08/02/07 - 12:35 PM:	#24
Well I do try to write in standard English so I don't have many copy problems. Hmm...good to know about spell check in Opera, I'll have to check that out. I don't actually know how many people are online right now but I'm stealing wifi and its working a bunch faster than wired. Maybe it's just something wonky with my computer.
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Posted 08/03/07 - 04:42 AM:	#25
Exigency wrote: Spell check is in Safari. It's in Camino (The Mac Version of Firefox), but it's not compatible on this forum for me. Now that I think about it I seem to recall it doesn't work in the WYSIWYG editor, only the plain editor. (I don't tend to notice WYSIWYG-specific things since I'm an Opera user and WYSIWYG doesn't work very well in Opera.) For Opera spell checking you need Aspell.
_____________________ "If a statement is made, it is to be confronted with the totality of existing statements. If it agrees with them, it is joined to them; if it does not agree, it is called 'untrue' and rejected; or the existing complex of statements of science is modified so that the new statement can be incorporated." - Otto Neurath

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