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Fenchurch
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Posted 11/06/09 - 08:57 PM:
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Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single significant female philosopher.
I'll just list women that any philosopher should easily recognize the name of:

Simone de Beauvoir
Iris Murdoch
Hannah Arendt
Simone Weil
Martha Nussbaum
Mary Warnock
G. E. M. Anscombe
Patricia Churchland
Philippa Foot
Ruth Millikan
Linda Alcoff
Catherine MacKinnon
Susan Haack
Mary Midgley
Helene Cixous
Susan Sontag
Christine Korsgaard
Judith Jarvis Thomson
Annette Baier
Judith Butler
Cora Diamond
Julia Kristeva
Marilyn McCord Adams
Julia Annas
Harriet Taylor Mill
Ayn Rand
Ruth Barcan Marcus

There are plenty of others, but that should hold you for now.

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Posted 11/06/09 - 09:46 PM:
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I am an important female philosopher
shaking head
just created account... hello (waves)



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Posted 11/06/09 - 10:00 PM:
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So how many is that now?..Four out of about fifteen people who posted (and a couple of wannabes) right? Not bad. Any more out there?

P.S. Welcome Antoinette. Judging by your picture (sexist comment coming up - brace yourselves) you're much too pretty to be an important philosopher.

P.P.S. I disclaim all responsibility for any offence caused by the above to any person living, dead or somewhere in between.

Edited by baden511 on 11/06/09 - 10:07 PM

"Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." Moses (Numbers 31:17-18)

"Do not harm little children" - Satanic Bible. Rule no.9

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Posted 11/06/09 - 11:55 PM:
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Fenchurch wrote:
I'll just list women that any philosopher should easily recognize the name of:

Simone de Beauvoir
Iris Murdoch
Hannah Arendt
Simone Weil
Martha Nussbaum
Mary Warnock
G. E. M. Anscombe
Patricia Churchland
Philippa Foot
Ruth Millikan
Linda Alcoff
Catherine MacKinnon
Susan Haack
Mary Midgley
Helene Cixous
Susan Sontag
Christine Korsgaard
Judith Jarvis Thomson
Annette Baier
Judith Butler
Cora Diamond
Julia Kristeva
Marilyn McCord Adams
Julia Annas
Harriet Taylor Mill
Ayn Rand
Ruth Barcan Marcus

There are plenty of others, but that should hold you for now.

There are some solid picks on that list; others are fairly mediocre. Judith Butler? Ehhhh, post-mod feminist loons don't exactly rate as philosophical giants in my book! Susan Sontag falls into that category, as well, as do a number of others (Catherine MacKinnon, for instance). Julia Kristeva is another nut job (and I seem to remember Alan Sokal dismantling her arguments extremely thoroughly at the height of the "Science Wars"). Lit crit, feminist theory, and the like are simply not real philosophy (or, at best, represent the dregs of the field).

Ayn Rand is more of a cult leader than a philosopher. Mary Midgley may have made decent contributions in her field (Ethics?) but her sparring with Richard Dawkins (mostly over her review of 'The Selfish Gene') pointed her out as being ludicrously ill-informed in many respects.


Edited by Arkady on 11/07/09 - 12:18 AM

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Posted 11/07/09 - 12:28 AM:
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P.S. Welcome Antoinette. Judging by your picture (sexist comment coming up - brace yourselves) you're much too pretty to be an important philosopher.

There have been plenty of attractive female philosophers, Baden. Like, um... Hmmm, well, there's...

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Posted 11/07/09 - 02:05 AM:
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Hey, I've just joined and I'm a woman. I think there are more woman today who are interested in philosophy because in the past women were largely ignored, I mean we lost a lot of good writings by women because of this but now we live in a less sexist society and woman can feel free to contribute.
Thanks.
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Posted 11/07/09 - 03:22 AM:
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I can pretend to be a woman if you like grin

Naaah. We don't want our Hypothesis to even think he could do that. That avatar sealed your gender.



Hello and welcome to antoinette and Caz.
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Posted 11/07/09 - 04:18 AM:
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"Actually, this is an interesting question. Perhaps Philosophy is a silly topic for most females. There may be a real research topic here. Maybe there is an inherit difference in male and female brains that allow men to ponder questions that arise due to the inadequacy of language to describe certain topics. Perhaps most females already have an inherent answers to these questions and allow men to ponder them. Mainly to occupy our time so the we have something on our minds besides sex."

My first response to your post above was shaking my head in pompus agreement with that silly grin that myself as a woman gives when she is being obviously appeased. Then that feeling of womens words, given how far we have come over time, are still weighed differently maybe as a result of the stereotypical trait of being a nurturer. I think in being able to love uncondtionally (specifically referring to being able to accept thier young) some might perceive that instinct as being 'tainted' with emotion. In many cases being tainted with emotion is seen as a weakness, To consider how one might feel about something is not a logical component in most decisions made in the working world.
I find one of the attractions of the study of Philo is that many if not all, male or female, are willing to open up with a level of safety ensured simply by the forum provided. 'Thinkers' seem to me to be able to show more of thier own character thru thier words and thoughts about 'other's thoughts'.
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Posted 11/07/09 - 04:58 AM:
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Hey, you guys are starting to discount my hypothesis...

But, by demonstrating that it is more important to converge and prove me wrong perhaps I am still a bit right!

[But I have a secret...At night, I...Well, here is a pic...]

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Posted 11/07/09 - 05:00 AM:
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There may be a real research topic here. Maybe there is an inherit difference in male and female brains that allow men to ponder questions that arise due to the inadequacy of language to describe certain topics. Perhaps most females already have an inherent answers to these questions and allow men to ponder them. Mainly to occupy our time so the we have something on our minds besides sex."


What I always find fascinating in talking with women, well not all but some, is that they seem to think they are privy to answeres unavailable to men. The same motive is seen in this quote. There is a sense of superiority in women. Though I have found that at least if cast in philosophical terms, women know as little as men. So perhaps they see the questions in a different light. That is my pet project now, finding out if we can see philosophy in a different light, as a different trait than it ha sbeen presented up until now. Sadly, no women could really articulate to me what this hidden knowldge they possess is about. There may be differences in how women and men approach subjects but when they start explaining, it never really seem to hold up. However it might be true though, so tell me women, what is philosophy about and what answers do we like to find that you already know?

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