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Posted 06/15/09 - 12:36 AM:	#31
Willowz wrote: The truth is that when I am asking this question about reality, there is another question behind it: "Who am I?"... Excuse my presumption, Willowz, but I suggest you investigate (what I've found to be more fundamental) the question "What are we?" instead. The personal (from persona) is merely the mask worn by -- adorning -- (an) impersonal (aspect of) being. The face behind your face, so to speak ...
The question isn't "Which explanations do I believe?" but rather "Which explanations do I least disbelieve?" Absence of evidence THAT MUST BE THERE (i.e. implied by any claim, concept, or (its) predicates, that affects changes in/to the world) entails evidence of absence. [What cannot be done?[What cannot be hoped?[What cannot be known?]]]

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Posted 06/15/09 - 08:40 AM:	#32
<p>In my view Reality is bipartite., Firstly it consists of providence, that apriori structural aspect of life, tethered with an expanding consciousness directed by an information stream and converted to knowledge through the use of intelligence. It is not easy the life, but it is likable!<br /> <br /> It is fair for me to say that the correllates of intelligence are " methods",, including those ones used to justify claims concerning knowledge.<br /> <br /> This means your reality depends on the number of methods to which you have access. and subsequently how they are deployed to completion.</p> Edited by nousPLOTINU on 06/15/09 - 12:06 PM. Reason: removed html tags
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Posted 06/15/09 - 09:41 AM:	#33
Willowz wrote: The truth is that when I am asking this question about reality, there is another question behind it: "Who am I?" OK. That is fair enough. I think we all ask that. However, I don't think the answer is going to come from people online or even people in RL. I honestly think that the answer can only come from you. I think it ties into our quest to know our place in reality but then we each have our own reality so only we can determine our place in it. We use religion and debate and drugs and things to help us try to sort all of that out but in the end we have to answer for ourselves. The answer comes from personal experience. Sorry but no short cuts, no quick answers. When you do figure out who you are I hope you like yourself. I didn't. I had to change a few things before I got to that point. Why should there be one road, or is it death? There is one road because there is only one of you. It is your journey that is or is not going to take you to your answers. The road does end in death though. As yet we have not found a way to prevent that. Do you already have the answer? I have answers for me. I have my reality pretty well sorted out but it took me 46 years to do it. I made a lot of mistakes, had a lot of wrong ideas, didn't love people enough and actually hurt far too many of them. It's all life. I ended up with my answers. I don't have yours. I don't think anyone else does either. The only thing any of us can do is suggest where to look. I am a little hasty, because these topic's aren't easy to understand and after a while you just need some time to digest it. Yep. I hope you have the time...and good digestion. Life is messy and it often hurts but the journey is great. Don't worry about wrong or right in some cosmic, objective sense because none of us knows that. All that matters in the end is what works for you.

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Posted 06/16/09 - 12:28 AM:	#34
oag wrote: OK. That is fair enough. I think we all ask that. However, I don't think the answer is going to come from people online or even people in RL. I honestly think that the answer can only come from you. I think it ties into our quest to know our place in reality but then we each have our own reality so only we can determine our place in it. We use religion and debate and drugs and things to help us try to sort all of that out but in the end we have to answer for ourselves. The answer comes from personal experience. Sorry but no short cuts, no quick answers. When you do figure out who you are I hope you like yourself. I didn't. I had to change a few things before I got to that point. There is one road because there is only one of you. It is your journey that is or is not going to take you to your answers. The road does end in death though. As yet we have not found a way to prevent that. I have answers for me. I have my reality pretty well sorted out but it took me 46 years to do it. Wow 46 years. At least I'm already thinking about the question. I find it sad, even though people have families and friends, they are still so alone with themselves. I know some people don't even have friends or families...
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Posted 06/16/09 - 06:33 AM:	#35
Willowz wrote: Wow 46 years. At least I'm already thinking about the question. I find it sad, even though people have families and friends, they are still so alone with themselves. I know some people don't even have friends or families... I thought about the question at a very early age too. I delved deep into philosophy, mostly Western because there is far too much Eastern philosophy to even begin to know where to start so I barely scratched the surface, and explored other religions when I was in college. I'm just telling you that in my 40s I'm finally starting to get a handle on the questions and find some of the answers I was looking for back then. I am not finished yet either. I'm just saying that I finally have a pretty good idea of who I am and who I should have been all along. That's life though. You have to make the journey. In the final analysis we are alone. When we die we will either cease to exist altogether or we will stand alone in front of our Maker and answer for what we've done with the gift of life He gave us. I happen to believe the latter to be more likely. Whether or not it is true think about how you might answer that question and maybe that will help guide your choices.

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Posted 06/16/09 - 04:52 PM:	#36
The question, "Who am I?", is a perfect example of one asked by a person who has fundamental flaws in their logic. You should be asking yourselves two different questions. "What am I?", and "What is 'I'?". The answers to these will no doubt render your quest for an answer to the first question redundant. I also suggest, rather then relying on experience and assumption alone, how about trying some scientific method?
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Posted 06/22/09 - 07:03 AM:	#37
mway wrote: The question, "Who am I?", is a perfect example of one asked by a person who has fundamental flaws in their logic. You should be asking yourselves two different questions. "What am I?", and "What is 'I'?". The answers to these will no doubt render your quest for an answer to the first question redundant. I also suggest, rather then relying on experience and assumption alone, how about trying some scientific method? "What is I", sounds like the question "What is conscious" just refrained a bit. What scientific method are you talking about? Psychology? I'd rather use the question "Who am I". Experience and assumption are what make's me. What I is already made of I know from basic psychology. I + experience&assumption = me
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Posted 06/30/09 - 03:20 PM:	#38
There seem to be two schools of thought on the nature of reality. One school insists that reality is the sum total of things we can interact with in such a manner that they change us and/or are changed by us. From this perspective everything else is unreal. The other school says that reality is a state of being that resides beyond that which changes us and/or is changed by us. From this perspective the temporal world is generally characterized as unreal. I see reality as the sum total of all possible beings. As such I regard it as everything that is, ever was, ever will be or ever could be under any circumstances. In this context to be real is to not be fundamentally impossible (I have my own definition of what this means but yours will likely suffice). Where reality is all-encompassing the domain of temporal phenomena as not so much unreal as sub-real I also believe that when viewed in its totality, reality is indistinguishable from nothingness (i.e., its components sum to zero). It is from this primal nothingness that everything around us emerges. As for your question of “Who am I”, each of us is a unique mental entity whose consciousness differentiated what we see around us from the original emptiness that is reality through our inability to see ourselves in everything. Edited by knowitall on 07/01/09 - 06:04 AM

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Posted 07/01/09 - 09:11 AM:	#39
Awareness is primordial and universal. It is not generated by physical systems ie the brain. Rather all things arise from the universal foundation of awareness.
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Posted 07/01/09 - 10:56 AM:	#40
Reality is what is known and what is to be known in the totality of true judgments.

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