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Nietzsche - understandable?

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Posted 09/28/09 - 04:52 PM:	#91
Looking at yergiba's post... I'd like to call that greek beauty.
"...There was a writer who asked why it was that when we find positive experiences we say that only the physical facts are real, but in negative experiences we believe that reality is subjective. He made an example of those who say that in birth only the pain is real, the joy a subjective point of view, but that in death it is the emotional loss that is the reality." - Tony Ballantyne, Recursion. _____________________________________________ Truth is want. - The internal state of matters. Truth is Need. - The external state of affairs.

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Posted 09/28/09 - 07:31 PM:	#92
Cadrache wrote: Looking at yergiba's post... I'd like to call that greek beauty. Well you might, but If I am N and my key message is the revaluation of all values then I am surely not going to suggest something this trite:the answer is greek beauty. The various themes N espouses are merely alternatives to loosen the chains of thought. Surely, they are not new answers: greek aesthetics, the eternal recurrence, will to power, slave/master morality, the superman. There is something of the overman in greek beauty, something liberating, certainly. But surely implicit in N is a warning that any and every paradigm is likely to enslave us if we raise it to some metaphysical truth. Thus greek beauty must merely be a key to help unlock the chains not a new testament. The tenured posters must be very busy correcting the incomplete sentences in this thread. It is perhaps a Nietzschean signature!

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Posted 09/29/09 - 08:30 AM:	#93
Greek beauty. Cannot claim that something is beautiful unless you already have some concept on what it is already. Most people tend not to read my posts I think - or if they do they are as bad at meaning as I am.
"...There was a writer who asked why it was that when we find positive experiences we say that only the physical facts are real, but in negative experiences we believe that reality is subjective. He made an example of those who say that in birth only the pain is real, the joy a subjective point of view, but that in death it is the emotional loss that is the reality." - Tony Ballantyne, Recursion. _____________________________________________ Truth is want. - The internal state of matters. Truth is Need. - The external state of affairs.

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Posted 10/03/09 - 11:19 PM:	#94
Adolescent males lack the physiology required for effective social interaction, if that is what you mean. Not their fault; they are perhaps more useful as warriors in that state. Edited by unenlightened on 10/04/09 - 02:21 AM. Reason: removed quote
Davidson: We make maximum sense of the words and thoughts of others when we interpret in a way that optimizes agreement. Russel Morris: There's a meaning there, but the meaning there doesn't really mean a thing... Ned: Such is life

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Posted 10/04/09 - 12:28 AM:	#95
This is something I also love about a lot of existentialist and nihilist writing in that they lase their texts to appeal to the readers sentiment, making existentialism a new form of humanism. Sartre for example would only show certain plays to certain cultural groups (the bourgeoisie are what i have in mind) because otherwise his work would be meaningless to the audience. Edited by unenlightened on 10/04/09 - 02:25 AM. Reason: removed response to deleted posts

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Posted 10/04/09 - 02:53 AM:	#96
We have had over a century since N where we have collectively refashioned and continue to tear down and replace, for a time at least, every value, morality, belief. We have re-constructed every edifice, from god to the family and we continue to do this at an ever faster pace, as every aspect of our lives is perpetually transformed . As a point of departure, it is probably apt to parallel the adolescence of this our popular culture and N's thoughts., but is it a point of understanding?.

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Posted 10/06/09 - 01:46 PM:	#97
Why then do the the adolescents lead?
"...There was a writer who asked why it was that when we find positive experiences we say that only the physical facts are real, but in negative experiences we believe that reality is subjective. He made an example of those who say that in birth only the pain is real, the joy a subjective point of view, but that in death it is the emotional loss that is the reality." - Tony Ballantyne, Recursion. _____________________________________________ Truth is want. - The internal state of matters. Truth is Need. - The external state of affairs.

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Posted 10/06/09 - 03:23 PM:	#98
The adolescent has unbridled energy, libido, drive and sex appeal. It has something to do with that, I think. And you?

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Posted 10/06/09 - 03:31 PM:	#99
Probably not. Why not let chilren lead then? Their unbridlged energy alone is greater then the other two. Why adolescents?
"...There was a writer who asked why it was that when we find positive experiences we say that only the physical facts are real, but in negative experiences we believe that reality is subjective. He made an example of those who say that in birth only the pain is real, the joy a subjective point of view, but that in death it is the emotional loss that is the reality." - Tony Ballantyne, Recursion. _____________________________________________ Truth is want. - The internal state of matters. Truth is Need. - The external state of affairs.

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Posted 10/06/09 - 10:41 PM:	#100
the optimum relationship between power/strength and energy. I guess

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