In no way did I say that anyone deserves to be killed. I did say that if the crabgrass and dandelions are killing one-another, it isn't a problem for the garden.

If we want to eliminate that trait in humankind, we need to go about it as a very deliberate project, with a variety of methods. Strangely enough, this would involve things like selective breeding, to include sterilization in many cases.

sparrowminded wrote:
In no way did I say that anyone deserves to be killed. I did say that if the crabgrass and dandelions are killing one-another, it isn't a problem for the garden.
If you want to stretch all the way into analyzing the life conditions of others, which is NONE of your business, you'll soon arrive at a non-sustainable society, such as Kalifornistan. I've had deeply serious issues to deal with, too, but it hasn't resulted in any death. If we are to carry on with that scenario, we need to cut very quickly to the chase, and establish a system of monitoring and testing prospective parents for eligibility. This would be the fastest and most efficient way to ensure that ours becomes a more evolved society.
In asking if murder IS the human condition, you have to be prepared to accept the fact that we are warlike. If we want to eliminate that trait in humankind, we need to go about it as a very deliberate project, with a variety of methods. Strangely enough, this would involve things like selective breeding, to include sterilization in many cases. Then, someone will say that vasectomy is a kind of abortion before the fact of conception. Maybe there's no winner in this discussion.

sparrowminded wrote:
Most recently, I recall that short, fat, smelly woman in line at the grocery store in front of me, with her 9 children. None of them speak a single word of American English. She is utterly surprised when the clerk demands payment. We watch as she digs around in her purse and tries a charge card that has no remaining balance. Then the debit, which is $40 short. Oh wait! She waves a small handful of WIC coupons! Wonderful. We dig back through the pile of groceries, looking for discounts. Some time later, I'm fantasizing about how pleasant it would be to simply place her, along with the groceries and her little herd on the feed belt of the local coal fired power plant.

sparrowminded wrote:
Why is it so hard for some to contribute to this sort of discussion? We are in a non-sustainable social fix right now, and it cannot be improved unless we improve it. Right now, the US maintains the highest per capita prison population in human history. We maintain the highest per capita divorce rate in human history. Do we see a pattern? The US is producing the highest per capita number of dysfunctional human beings that has ever existed. What is your CONTRIBUTION?

sparrowminded wrote:
You guyz are pretty funny. It's one thing to fantasize, and quite another to plot or propose. Someone had mentioned "more developed cultures", and I cited examples of how we are far from that. Still, I see no contributions here. I see frightened little children, hiding under the bed; afraid that there may be an end to leftist liberal logic.