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Posted 10/30/09 - 12:21 AM:
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Grom wrote:
From "CPR, B344-5":
Understanding [...] limits sensibility, but does not thereby extend its own sphere. In the process of warning the latter that it must not presume to claim applicability to things-in-themselves but only to appearances, it does indeed think for itself an object in itself, but only as transcendental object, which is the cause of appearance and therefore not itself appearance, and which can be thought neither as quantity nor as reality nor as substance etc. (because these concepts always require sensible forms in which they determine an object). We are completely ignorant whether it is to be met within us or outside us, whether it would be at once removed with the cessation of sensibility, or whether in the absence of sensibility it would still remain. If we are pleased to name this object noumenon for the reason that its representation is not sensible, we are free to do so. But since we can apply to it none of the concepts of our understanding, the representation remains for us empty, and is of no service except to mark the limits of our sensible knowledge and to leave open a space which we can fill neither through possible experience nor through pure understanding.


I've read that passage more than a few times. The trouble with Kant is that he often refers to noumena in two different ways. The first is as a putative object of an intellectual intuition, conceptually determined, though not for our discursive intellect. The second is as the cause of an appearance, an unknown something which is conceptually undetermined. I am almost certain that Kant is using the transcendental object to refer to his second understanding of noumena, but not his first. The transcendental object is not synonymous with the first understanding of noumena, but is equivalent to noumena in the second understanding of the term. It's purpose is the same, to designate a boundary between that which is sensible and that which is not.

"That which is done out of love is always beyond good and evil" - Nietzsche
"Every art and every inquiry, and similarly every action and pursuit, is thought to aim at some good; and for this reason the good has rightly been declared to be that at which all things aim." - Aristotle
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