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unenlightened
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Posted 11/11/07 - 01:49 AM: Subject: invisible thread	#1
I just recieved this: munty13 has posted on the topic is getting wasted right or wrong which you are subscribed to. To view the new post, see http://forums.philosophyforums.com/threads/is-get... . and this: khrysler1210 has posted on the topic is getting wasted right or wrong which you are subscribed to. To view the new post, see http://forums.philosophyforums.com/threads/is-get... . I'm a bit confused; when I go to look at the posts I get told to logon again, and then refused access. How have I managed to subscibe to a post I can't read? (I assume I posted to it at some time, sounds like the sort of thing I'd have an opinion on.:cool Has it been moved to a secret location, I can't find it at all?
_____________________ The observer is the observed. J Krishnamurti "Philosophy, to the Philistine, is an evolutionary process, watched over by some sort of brisk dynamic Providence, and culminating in the supreme insight of modern thought." John Cowper Powys

hyena in petticoat
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Posted 11/11/07 - 05:18 PM:	#2
You can't access it because the said thread has been deleted. So, it has indeed been moved to a secret location which mods and admin can access.
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Posted 11/11/07 - 06:22 PM:	#3
waves hand You don't need to see that thread. You can go on about your business.
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unenlightened
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Posted 11/12/07 - 02:42 AM:	#4
"doffs cap" Thank ye kindly. I have complete confidence in the wisdom of your moderation. It just seems a bit odd that people are posting to a deleted thread - must be an effect of time dilation or something.
_____________________ The observer is the observed. J Krishnamurti "Philosophy, to the Philistine, is an evolutionary process, watched over by some sort of brisk dynamic Providence, and culminating in the supreme insight of modern thought." John Cowper Powys

pachomius2000
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Posted 01/04/08 - 03:00 PM: Subject: With all due respect, seems like censorship.	#5
May I just suggest that when a thread or post is deleted, there is a mention of the deletion in the place where the thread or post used to be and why. Otherwise people get the feeling that there is the policy of desaparecidos* in this forum With all due respect. Pachomius *Spanish, having disappeared without notice

hyena in petticoat
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Posted 01/06/08 - 05:50 PM:	#6
You do get notice/s if you participated in the thread that has been deleted and you turned your "receieve notices for moderators action on my post/s" option on. Or you talking about public notice/s?
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pachomius2000
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Posted 01/07/08 - 03:00 PM:	#7
Thanks, hyena in petticoat, for your goodness in engaging in this communication, and also I presume other moderators and admins do the same. Yes, I am referring to public notices, because people here and visitors are legitimately curious about having seen a thread and then when they want to see it again, it is no longer there, also a post, and no public notice has been given by the management and reason why. Of course the author of the thread or post deleted can be and is notified accordingly if he put in his options list that he wants to be notified about such an action taken by management in his regard. Before anything further, I want to thank you that we can still communicate here about any disappointments from both parts, posters and management, about our respective annoyances at least if not gross violations of rules if and why. I am trying to get the feel of how I should conduct myself in this forum, and I think I am getting somewhere, and thanks to you for your guidance. I will be guided accordingly so as not to incur any reaction from the part of management like deletion of a thread without public notice -- that is your policy and I will accept that because it does not detract from the possibility of a poster here from publishing his essential message in a readable and civil manner. My purpose here is to seek reactions from fellow posters here to my ideas, nothing more, and thereby to see where we agree and where we have any impasse. Just the same, with all due respect, please consider if you and the other staff members and the owners of this forum can adopt the use of public notice whenever a thread or post or even poster appeared in the forum and then disappeared, because -- with again all due respect -- it is to my mind and heart a legitimate curiosity of people everywhere in a human setting to know what happened and why from responsible people in charge. Again, with all due respect. Pachomius

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Posted 01/07/08 - 03:13 PM:	#8
Paul wrote: waves hand You don't need to see that thread. You can go on about your business. Is that like the Obi Wan "These are not the threads your looking for" Jedi mind trick?
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Posted 01/07/08 - 03:23 PM:	#9
pachomius2000 wrote: Just the same, with all due respect, please consider if you and the other staff members and the owners of this forum can adopt the use of public notice whenever a thread or post or even poster appeared in the forum and then disappeared, because -- with again all due respect -- it is to my mind and heart a legitimate curiosity of people everywhere in a human setting to know what happened and why from responsible people in charge. The big problem with that is that I would anticipate the staff (non-payed/volunteer) having to publically justify every trivial editorial descision that is made. That takes an immense amount of time, and doesn't really accomplish much. If someone had their own post edited or deleted, then they are notified (assuming they have allowed for notification via their user options), and between that and the feedback forum, there is legitimate checks to air any greivances on questionable moderation (which occurs rarely, but it does from time to time).
_____________________ Vivian Jaffe: Have you ever transcended space and time? Albert Markovski: Yes... No... Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about. I Heart Huckabees (2004)

unenlightened
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Posted 01/07/08 - 04:01 PM:	#10
Eh, what? Whos this cluttering up my bulk mail with posts on my defunct thread about a defunct thread? Oh I see, its about another one. How about a sort of halfway house between being allowed to post and total annihilation - a naughty step for errant threads, with big moderator frownies or something... make the little horrors edit some sense into themselves. Just a thought.
_____________________ The observer is the observed. J Krishnamurti "Philosophy, to the Philistine, is an evolutionary process, watched over by some sort of brisk dynamic Providence, and culminating in the supreme insight of modern thought." John Cowper Powys

Paul
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Posted 01/08/08 - 01:10 AM:	#11
pachomius2000 wrote: Yes, I am referring to public notices, because people here and visitors are legitimately curious Few are really curious, so it needs to not be distracting. I've made the log visible at the "view forum details" page in the actions box at the bottom of the forum page. Reformed Nihilist wrote: The big problem with that is that I would anticipate the staff (non-payed/volunteer) having to publically justify every trivial editorial descision that is made. I don't think so, in fact it may reduce questions since the reasons are listed (even if brief). As long as it's not something people have to look at, no harm in allowing people to see the log. unenlightened wrote: make the little horrors edit some sense into themselves. Revision requests give them the chance to fix it to get it restored, but I can count on one hand the number of times they actually have fixed it, so it's effectively like a deletion. Edited by Paul on 01/08/08 - 01:15 AM
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pachomius2000
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Posted 01/08/08 - 11:01 AM: Subject: It's easy and quick with the forum software.	#12
reformed nihilist wrote: The big problem with that is that I would anticipate the staff (non-payed/volunteer) having to publically justify every trivial editorial descision that is made. That takes an immense amount of time, and doesn't really accomplish much. If someone had their own post edited or deleted, then they are notified (assuming they have allowed for notification via their user options), and between that and the feedback forum, there is legitimate checks to air any greivances on questionable moderation (which occurs rarely, but it does from time to time). The whole thing can be very simple and quick, for with the forum software a moderator or an admin can just click on the "delete" button, then click the "reason" button or then fill in the "reason" box with for example, "low quality" or "derail" or "spam". No need to justify the act at that point, only when people ask about it in this feedback board. Pachomius

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