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_claire
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Posted 05/23/08 - 01:37 PM: Subject: Human Purpose?	#1
What did God, if there is a God, intend for human purpose to be? Were we meant to be the most advanced species on earth, creating such a complex, yet amazing world, and influencing it so much? Were we meant to live simpler lives, such as Adam and Eve's, where the world would in theory be peaceful and we wouldn't have such a dramatic affect on it? Or do we have a set purpose - to change the world, or bring peace, for example. Or are we on God's playing field, left to our own interpretations of right and wrong and what we think he wants us to do? There are no right or wrong answers. I just want to hear what people have to say.

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Posted 05/23/08 - 02:06 PM:	#2
If there is a god then he created us and left us to our own devices, he had no master plan for us it was like his experiment of sorts. Any sort of peace is a naive thought which i know sounds horrible but it's true. Peace will never exist in a world that was built on survival of the fittest and taking without asking. The only reason we have survived this long is because we took what we needed when we needed and screw the consequences. Life never intended to be peaceful or have a purpose, we just make it up as we go a long.

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Posted 05/23/08 - 05:10 PM:	#3
Peace or lack thereof, is only an issue in human terms, the flora and fauna when left to there own devices just get on with it, they are self limiting. We however are not, there lie the boundary's to human purpose .... L x
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. Douglas Adams

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Posted 05/24/08 - 07:43 AM:	#4
_claire wrote: What did God, if there is a God, intend for human purpose to be? Were we meant to be the most advanced species on earth, creating such a complex, yet amazing world, and influencing it so much? Were we meant to live simpler lives, such as Adam and Eve's, where the world would in theory be peaceful and we wouldn't have such a dramatic affect on it? Or do we have a set purpose - to change the world, or bring peace, for example. Or are we on God's playing field, left to our own interpretations of right and wrong and what we think he wants us to do? There are no right or wrong answers. I just want to hear what people have to say. Yiming: Hey, Claire, first of all we are not one of the species but a living consciousness that encompasses everything. This consciousness, like an operating system (think Microsoft), enables us to live as various life forms like animals (including the human subset), plants and all the way down to the smallest micro-organism. We are the world, so to speak. If Microsoft's Window Vista has a creator in Bill Gates, you are asking, what about this consciousness? Does it also have a creator like God or Big Bang? Your very question infers that you don't buy what religion and science have to say. Me too, I don't buy what everybody has to say including myself. But, in my exploration, I have found this much: I am not a member of the human specie - a person called Claire or whatever - that is separate and different from everyone and everything else in this world. How am I doing so far?

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Posted 05/24/08 - 09:39 AM:	#5
_claire wrote: What did God, if there is a God, intend for human purpose to be? Were we meant to be the most advanced species on earth, creating such a complex, yet amazing world, and influencing it so much? Were we meant to live simpler lives, such as Adam and Eve's, where the world would in theory be peaceful and we wouldn't have such a dramatic affect on it? Or do we have a set purpose - to change the world, or bring peace, for example. Or are we on God's playing field, left to our own interpretations of right and wrong and what we think he wants us to do? By now you realize that there will be as many unique answers to this post as there are people upon the Earth...figuratively speaking. Asking the question is as important as whatever answer you decide to choose as the truth, even if it's your own personal truth. As cliche as this may sound, perhaps we are here to ask the question and nothing more. Does it necessarily mean that we have an intended purpose, be it divine or mundane? That's for you to decide in the end. Many before you have spent their entire lives asking the question and a few brilliant, or perhaps mad, individuals either "received" or invented the answer to whatever end they surmised. However, was it the truth in a universal way? Perhaps...perhaps not. It is a lifetime of searching and discovering but in the end you choose the truth you feel is most valid in terms of whatever criteria you believe to be pertinent to the question. Whether or not it is personally true or universally true is left to the ages. KneroS

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Posted 05/24/08 - 10:48 AM:	#6
KneroS wrote: By now you realize that there will be as many unique answers to this post as there are people upon the Earth...figuratively speaking. Asking the question is as important as whatever answer you decide to choose as the truth, even if it's your own personal truth. As cliche as this may sound, perhaps we are here to ask the question and nothing more. Does it necessarily mean that we have an intended purpose, be it divine or mundane? That's for you to decide in the end. Many before you have spent their entire lives asking the question and a few brilliant, or perhaps mad, individuals either "received" or invented the answer to whatever end they surmised. However, was it the truth in a universal way? Perhaps...perhaps not. It is a lifetime of searching and discovering but in the end you choose the truth you feel is most valid in terms of whatever criteria you believe to be pertinent to the question. Whether or not it is personally true or universally true is left to the ages. KneroS You are saying that there is no way of coming to anything absolutely true. If that's absolutely true, then we are all in wonderland forever.

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Posted 05/24/08 - 11:12 AM:	#7
yiming wrote: You are saying that there is no way of coming to anything absolutely true. If that's absolutely true, then we are all in wonderland forever. A contradiction in terms. If there is no absolute truth then the statement is flawed. If there is absolute truth then the statement is flawed. A no win situation. Can it be proven that we are not in "wonderland"? KneroS

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Posted 05/24/08 - 08:09 PM:	#8
[quote=KneroS] A contradiction in terms. If there is no absolute truth then the statement is flawed. If there is absolute truth then the statement is flawed. A no win situation. Can it be proven that we are not in "wonderland"? No, I cannot prove that. On the contrary, I can prove that we are in Wonderland.

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Posted 05/26/08 - 06:44 AM: Subject: Puppets...?	#9
I, personally, find this a very interesting subject. Because, on one hand; I think that, maybe one day, God got bored, and decided to create an amazing world, to see what would look like. Afterwards, he thought it needed more... and so, "Adam" and "Lilith" were created. Some people say that he made us for his own amusement. Well, if that's so - then why did he, in some of the most popular stories: ( i.e. Noah's Ark ) alow a chosen few to live, and re-create, or re-populate the Earth? I just question many theories on the purpose of human existence, and I suppose it's up for debate. Frankly, I'm just glad he did what he did, because I wouldn't be here. Lolz. So.
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Posted 05/26/08 - 08:49 AM:	#10
yiming wrote: You are saying that there is no way of coming to anything absolutely true. If that's absolutely true, then we are all in wonderland forever. We are in Get Along the Best We Can Land. We can figure out how some of the world works at least some of the time and use this understanding to our purposes. We can turn the lights on without having to be "absolutely" sure that the principles on which the whole electrical system is based are absolutely true. And we can do ten zillion other things with varying degrees of reliability, never claiming that our ideas are absolutely true. Cheers. jd
OTOH I might be exhaustively wrong about everything I've ever thought--with the possible exception of this sentence.

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