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SliceyTheKid
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Posted 10/28/09 - 05:09 AM: Subject: Ethics of this website?	#1
So recently one of my topics regarding a question for a tough paper I had to write was deleted due to "lack of initial thought by poster." How do you moderators know I didn't try before coming here and asking my question? So if I had never mentioned the words homework, or essay you would have helped me? Well you know what- I did try. I tried very hard. That's why I came here, it was a last resort. I said in my post I wasn't looking for anyone to write the essay for me. I was ignorant concerning the topic and truly needed help. Seeing this thread on the main page only makes it worse: http://forums.philosophyforums.com...-music-37541.html#lastpost In this thread, you guys help someone who says he couldn't find the answers by searching on WIKIPEDIA. And you want to talk about "lack of inital effort..." I read my John Stewart Mill book and Kant excerpts for hours before I even thought about asking around on the internet. So don't give me that grief! Is this website run by a bunch of uptight jerks? Seems that way. This will be my last post. This thread WILL be deleted. Edited by Benkei on 10/28/09 - 05:57 AM. Reason: removed profanity

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Posted 10/28/09 - 06:07 AM:	#2
I deleted it because you simply stated a question without providing some of your own insight on the matter. An additional or perhaps better description was "lack of effort, low quality post". We're not interested in having this site cluttered with single paragraphs stating homework questions. If you want to discuss things than kick it off by discussing your own question. Since you didn't I have to assume you didn't give it any thought as far as your post on this site is concerned. The guidelines on this site are quite clear if you had bothered to read them. The issue with regard to homework is specifically dealt with there. http://forums.philosophyforums.com/help/posting-guidelines/ The substantive difference between your post and the post on Hip Hop and philosophy is that you are basically asking for the answer to the essay question, whereas the other posts deal with advice on how to approach writing such a paper. We won't answer essay questions for you but most posters are more than willing to give pointers as to how to write papers. The latter is also an addition to the site as it may help other forum members to write better papers.
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Posted 10/28/09 - 06:28 AM:	#3
SliceyTheKid wrote: Is this website run by a bunch of uptight jerks? Yes, absolutely. We insist on proper written English, with punctuation and not only delete things we don't like but also quite often ban people who insult us. Full details of just how obnoxious we are can be found in the posting guidelines under the Help tab. Fortunately, you are under no obligation to submit your posts to our arbitrary whims.
...most of our actions are the result of the past, or according to a future ideal. That's not action, that is just conformity. J Krishnamurti "Philosophy, to the Philistine, is an evolutionary process, watched over by some sort of brisk dynamic Providence, and culminating in the supreme insight of modern thought." John Cowper Powys

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Posted 10/28/09 - 06:33 AM:	#4
Not to be uptight or anything, but its "Stuart", not "Stewart." I would have at least noted that, and I don't even participate in "running" this forum. For which many no doubt give thanks.
"Let us not pretend to doubt in philosophy what we do not doubt in our hearts."--C.S. Peirce "There is nothing so absurd but some philosopher has said it."--Marcus Tullius Cicero "Philosophy recovers itself when it ceases to be a device for dealing with the problems of philosophers and becomes a method, cultivated by philosophers, for dealing with the problems of men."--John Dewey

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Posted 10/28/09 - 07:50 AM:	#5
I'll also offer a practical tip. Don't lose sight of your objective. You were trying to get a free answer to one of your homework questions and you didn't get it. So, what you should have done is re-ask the question in another way and see if that works. If it didn't, you could try again. You've got to keep your eye on the prize. Instead, you've criticized those who hold the prize, and now it's unlikely you'll ever get it. You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
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Posted 10/28/09 - 07:57 AM:	#6
ciceronianus wrote: Not to be uptight or anything, but its "Stuart", not "Stewart." I would have at least noted that, and I don't even participate in "running" this forum. For which many no doubt give thanks. I fear SliceyTheKid will overlook this clever retort, so I will provide it for him: it's it's, not its.
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Posted 10/28/09 - 08:09 AM:	#7
I consider the ethical motivation of the moderators to be well in order if their goal is to encourage intellectual growth and honest inquiry (or even, I suppose, if their goal is just to keep up intelligibility of posts here).
I am more interested in questions than answers; dialog than dictation. If we can reasonably believe that there is not just a breach, but a fundamentally unclosable gap between the individual mind and the ultimate nature of the reality; the primordial thing in itself, then 'true' mystery does exist.

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Posted 10/28/09 - 08:50 AM:	#8
Hanover wrote: ciceronianus wrote: Not to be uptight or anything, but its "Stuart", not "Stewart." I would have at least noted that, and I don't even participate in "running" this forum. For which many no doubt give thanks. I fear SliceyTheKid will overlook this clever retort, so I will provide it for him: it's it's, not its. Damnation! God's teeth! The worst part is, of course, the fact that I deserve it.
"Let us not pretend to doubt in philosophy what we do not doubt in our hearts."--C.S. Peirce "There is nothing so absurd but some philosopher has said it."--Marcus Tullius Cicero "Philosophy recovers itself when it ceases to be a device for dealing with the problems of philosophers and becomes a method, cultivated by philosophers, for dealing with the problems of men."--John Dewey

SliceyTheKid
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Posted 10/28/09 - 08:55 AM:	#9
I'm not trying to ruffle anyone's feathers. I just felt like mine were ruffled a little. I wasn't trying to get free answers, I am genuinely flustered regarding the topic of my essay and came here for some help and discussion. I didn't get any of that, I got warning points, thread deletion, and swarms of private messages. I'm not getting that help. I'm coming under fire for grammatical errors and posting protocol. Come on guys. Really? When there was a thread 3 posts under mine where the OP had terrible grammar, asked his question in a short, uninformative paragraph and his reasoning for coming to these forums in the first place was, "I couldn't find it on Wikipedia!" However, his question was resolved, responded to and did not come under fire. I actually READ my textbook. I am a good student. My cumulative GPA is a 3.8. I go to college at the third best state university in the nation. I am not looking for freebies, nor was I looking for anyone to write my essay for me. Just looking for a place to start, because I am frustrated. Stewart, Stuart. Whatever. Sorry. Sincere apologies.

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Posted 10/28/09 - 09:04 AM:	#10
SliceyTheKid wrote: Stewart, Stuart. Whatever. Sorry. Sincere apologies. None required, of course. I enjoy being silly now and then, and sometimes even enjoy being told I'm being silly. And, you did use "Kant" instead of "Can't."
"Let us not pretend to doubt in philosophy what we do not doubt in our hearts."--C.S. Peirce "There is nothing so absurd but some philosopher has said it."--Marcus Tullius Cicero "Philosophy recovers itself when it ceases to be a device for dealing with the problems of philosophers and becomes a method, cultivated by philosophers, for dealing with the problems of men."--John Dewey

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