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Does God Actually Love You?
Everyone says "Jesus loves you" but does he?

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Does God Actually Love You?

Eaglo
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Posted 11/05/09 - 04:22 PM: Subject: Does God Actually Love You?	#1
Following the ideas of love to the simplest form, you love what you lack. You are attracted to your opposite, be it magnets or bad boys, older women or money, that is what you lack, that is what you love. So if this is true how can God (a loving god) actually love everyone when he has them. When I say "he has them" he may literally have us all, in all ways shapes and forms. He knows everything about you, what you like and what you don't like, and since he likes all wouldn't it make you, or all humans, even less attractive? This may seem like a very simple idea, but take some time to chew it over and tell me what you think.
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Posted 11/05/09 - 04:46 PM:	#2
Love can be thought of as a feeling (which implies a need) and as an action of beneficience. God doesn't have any needs and thus has no feelings, so the more charitable interpretation you can make is that it is an action of beneficience.
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Posted 11/05/09 - 05:07 PM:	#3
We love the people we value and we value the people we love.We may or may not value/love objects we don't possess.
thanatos

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Posted 11/05/09 - 05:34 PM:	#4
Watch any news channel for 5 minutes: if there is a god he does not care about this world, he might even be trying to kill us off. All the diseases he would have created to kill us -- there's thousands of them, or the natural disasters he keeps inflicting on us. Or how about not providing large parts of the world with food and water. If that was your dad you would say he was a prick who did not care at all about you. Why is there a double standard for this so-called God? I think you have to be pretty naive to believe you are loved by him. Edited by Incision on 11/05/09 - 05:58 PM. Reason: illiteracy

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Posted 11/05/09 - 06:05 PM:	#5
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms." ~Albert Einstein, obituary in New York Times, 19 April 1955

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Posted 11/05/09 - 06:53 PM:	#6
It's obvious God doesn't love us. Look at all the ugly people he created--not to mention all the other defects.
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Posted 11/05/09 - 07:45 PM:	#7
shrugs I stopped calling God "My God." the day of the dream when he erm... 'kicked me out of heaven.' His exact words were "You have got to go back now."
"...There was a writer who asked why it was that when we find positive experiences we say that only the physical facts are real, but in negative experiences we believe that reality is subjective. He made an example of those who say that in birth only the pain is real, the joy a subjective point of view, but that in death it is the emotional loss that is the reality." - Tony Ballantyne, Recursion. _____________________________________________ Truth is want. - The internal state of matters. Truth is Need. - The external state of affairs.

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Posted 11/05/09 - 08:27 PM:	#8
If you get away from 'outside' for a while and take time to be present in what is, you will find that God does truly love you, and that is all there is... Even if you cannot find God, there you hava found God.. Love, what other alternative is there?

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Posted 11/05/09 - 08:45 PM:	#9
Eaglo wrote: Following the ideas of love to the simplest form, you love what you lack. You are attracted to your opposite, be it magnets or bad boys, older women or money, that is what you lack, that is what you love. So if this is true how can God (a loving god) actually love everyone when he has them. When I say "he has them" he may literally have us all, in all ways shapes and forms. He knows everything about you, what you like and what you don't like, and since he likes all wouldn't it make you, or all humans, even less attractive? This may seem like a very simple idea, but take some time to chew it over and tell me what you think. I don't completely agree that you love what you lack. I am most attracted to people who share my dispositions and outlook on the world (you are alot more likely to become friends with people who agree with you). I like people who are like me but compliment me at the same time. Not that they are my opposites, just that they are stronger than me in certain areas where I am more weak and vice versa. Another good question is whether God loves us despite our weaknesses. I would say yes in the same way that we love children that are vulnerable and naive (but in them we see a kind of purity that is beautiful).

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Posted 11/05/09 - 08:46 PM:	#10
keda wrote: Love can be thought of as a feeling (which implies a need) and as an action of beneficience. God doesn't have any needs and thus has no feelings, so the more charitable interpretation you can make is that it is an action of beneficience. So god's love is merely utilitarian? No warm and fuzziness?
"If you've got any last words, say 'em now." - Nadie. "I am Horo the Wise." - Horo the Wise.

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