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Posted 09/28/04 - 05:22 AM:

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Topic: When in conflict, Globalization ought to be valued above National Sovereignties.
My side: Affirmative
Debate Type: Lincoln Douglas:
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Second Affirmative Rebuttal (must be significantly shorter than the first)

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Posted 10/01/04 - 07:35 PM:
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just wondering, is there ever going to be a bush/kerry debate?

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Posted 10/02/04 - 05:08 PM:
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I don't think they're registered here, and also I've seen no indication that either of them knows the slightest thing about philosophy. I doubt they would be qualified to debate anything.

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Posted 10/02/04 - 05:30 PM:
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Not to mention the fact that their agreement with the debate commission precludes them from participating in any debates (with each other) other than the three agreed upon formal debates outlined in the 2004 debate contract, which both parties agreed to. *Sigh* wink
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Posted 10/03/04 - 04:35 AM:
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Not to mention the fact that their agreement with the debate commission precludes them from participating in any debates (with each other) other than the three agreed upon formal debates outlined in the 2004 debate contract, which both parties agreed to. *Sigh* wink


Do you really think we would achive any new insights on *any* given topic those two would happen to debate upon.
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Posted 10/05/04 - 04:26 PM:
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If I was moderating the debate, and the candidates had to abide by the rules under penalty of death, or at least career death, you bet we would.
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Posted 12/01/04 - 08:21 AM:
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This forum seems quiet. Is there any members that are still interested in starting a debate?

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Posted 12/01/04 - 02:55 PM:
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I'd be interested, but I've had quite a bit of homework lately, in addition to the college application and scholarship-finding processes. There are other potential distractions that might approach, like the possibility that I attempt to record an album of rubber-band noises, just for the comedic effect. Some of us wanted to film a ninja-movie too, but I don't know how much that will interfere with my schedule.
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Posted 12/01/04 - 03:19 PM:
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I'm free enough to participate in a debate up to about one week into the future. If random can't fit it into his schedule, I'd be interested. Do you have any particular debate topic(s) in mind?
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Posted 12/01/04 - 04:55 PM:
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Ok, I'm interested in debating either c or RandomPrecision or both. If possible I would like to start the debate as soon as I finish a paper I have due for college or soon after. If you want to choose a topic, however I do wish to only debate a topics that I have some knowledge it and interest in.

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Posted 12/02/04 - 12:16 AM:
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Negative:
標hether morality is absolute.
標hether creationism provides a valid explanation for the state of the known universe.
標hether capital punishment is a just social institution.

Affirmative or Negative:
標hether the general mass of humanity should rule itself, or should be ruled by the elite.
標hether religion is a positive social institution.
標hether the universe is full of intelligent life.
標hether voting in a fundamentally flawed political system is worthwhile.

I will debate any of the above topics on the indicated side with anyone willing.

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Posted 12/02/04 - 02:32 AM:

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標hether creationism provides a valid explanation for the state of the known universe.

How would you would define creationism and valid explanation?
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Posted 12/02/04 - 02:37 AM:

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That the universe was not brought into existence by naturalistic means, nor is it eternal, but rather was brought into a finite existence through creation by a higher being.

And I would say, quite loosely, that a valid explanation is one that is in concordance with ovservation, is logically sound, and in some degree quells our confusion over the existence of the universe. As in, if we knew that the universe was created, we could say "oh I see now, boy that's a load off my mind, I can stop worrying about that one now".

Please, disagree if you feel the need to do so, for I can benefit from a deeper analysis of this question.

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Posted 12/02/04 - 04:40 AM:

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Perhaps we'd start a pre-debate topic, simply to recieve an understanding of (more) exactly what we are to debate.

That the universe was not brought into existence by naturalistic means

What do you mean by naturalistic and universe?

nor is it eternal

This one I'd like to attack smiling face

higher being

Give me some more info on your concept of the being.

is logically sound

Atleast probably.

and in some degree quells our confusion over the existence of the universe

some degree isn't difficult, but a decent may be, this, however, I believe is rather more a goal of the discussion (which we may have) but that of the theories.

"oh I see now, boy that's a load off my mind, I can stop worrying about that one now".

I cannot promise that as certainly, there are always unsolved questions as well as we cannot fully answer any question, outside all systems, but we'll see how far we can come smiling face

Are you here stating that I do not need to present any support for our logical system, but that I can hold it as a firm bases (so that I am not allowed to go in to that particular meta logical subject nor do I need to bring up any support for the logical system).
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Posted 12/02/04 - 03:19 PM:

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I'm not going to define naturalistic for you. And how can you attack that a created universe can't be eternal? We can't argue a topic related to creationism if we are using eternal universes.

And universe would be the physical reality we experience. Space-time as we know it. Just what everyone considers the universe, with the clause that "outside" of it can exist a higher being. Perhaps in higher dimensions, metaphysical realms, whatever. And you need no information on a higher being - it is irrelevent. The only constituent is that it created the universe.

And many creationists feel that God is a satisfactory explanation for the universe, the question is whether or not they are validated in finding this to be satisfactory. And if you ask me to define satisfactory, I'm going to bitch-slap you.

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Posted 12/04/04 - 10:51 AM:

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Socrastein wrote:

Negative:
標hether morality is absolute.
標hether creationism provides a valid explanation for the state of the known universe.
標hether capital punishment is a just social institution.

Affirmative or Negative:
標hether the general mass of humanity should rule itself, or should be ruled by the elite.
標hether religion is a positive social institution.
標hether the universe is full of intelligent life.
標hether voting in a fundamentally flawed political system is worthwhile.

I will debate any of the above topics on the indicated side with anyone willing.


I'm willing to challenge you on the negative position that morality is absolute and assert the position that there is an absolute morality.

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Posted 12/06/04 - 07:41 AM:
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Socrastein: Sorry, went into my cramming period. I'll pick up the discussion the 18th, if you are still about then.
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Posted 12/22/04 - 03:14 AM:

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Nspeds - I'll debate that motion from a negative perspective.

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Posted 01/29/05 - 03:35 PM:
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I would like someone to debate with me

TOPIC: Can and individual act against his own will

MY POSITION: no

Im guessing 5 rounds? i dont know, whatever you guys want
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Posted 01/29/05 - 03:36 PM:
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*i meant best interest not will
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Posted 02/01/05 - 02:31 AM:
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Yes if they are ignorant of their 'best interest' QED

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Posted 02/03/05 - 02:54 PM:
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I judge Machiveli the winner of the shortest complete and convincing debate yet recorded in this forum.

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Posted 03/10/05 - 02:54 AM:
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I'd like to have a standard rules debate, with a poll on the winner, over the existence of free-will with anyone interested in arguing the affirmative.

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Posted 03/10/05 - 04:59 AM:
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It's a bit similar to debate #5 even if from a different angle and involving some different arguments, but if we made it a 3 round debate (don't want to commit too much time since I should really try to be more productive, and don't want the debate to get too repetitive either) I'd take the affirmative. I've got a few new ideas on the matter that could use exploring.

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Posted 02/22/06 - 10:42 AM:
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I'm willing to debate the subject of absolute morality by asserting the position that there is an absolute morality if anyone is willing to assert the position that morality is subjective.

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