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sqeecoo
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Posted 05/30/09 - 04:20 PM:
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Right... well, there you seem to be saying that being right and being justified is the same thing (i.e. truth=justification/justifiability, and unjustified=inconsistent), and that Agrippa's trilemma does not hold for partial justification. I disagree with both claims, but I didn't find your elaboration of them especially clear, so I'm not sure how to reply. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree :P

Although I'd be quite interested in at least an informal discussion - I am unhappy that I couldn't really understand your criticism of my position, and would like to know how you think it can be achieved that "justification is satisfied without dogma or infinite regress where "certainty" is not the goal".

My argument is simple: if you start with belief A, and offer B as justification for it, and C for B etc., you either never end this process, which is an infinite regress, or you end it with belief N, and N remains unjustified (N might perhaps be something like "perceptions offer direct justification"). The problem is simply shifted from A to N, and nothing is achieved. It is irrelevant whether the justification B, C, etc. give to A is partial or conclusive.

Edited by sqeecoo on 05/30/09 - 04:25 PM
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Posted 06/10/09 - 03:48 PM:
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Maybe something like the furthing of a genetic manipulation is independant of whether or not the individual finds genetic manipulation ethically good or bad.

"...There was a writer who asked why it was that when we find positive experiences we say that only the physical facts are real, but in negative experiences we believe that reality is subjective. He made an example of those who say that in birth only the pain is real, the joy a subjective point of view, but that in death it is the emotional loss that is the reality." - Tony Ballantyne, Recursion.
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Posted 08/06/09 - 05:28 PM:
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Cadrache wrote:
Maybe something like the furthing of a genetic manipulation is independant of whether or not the individual finds genetic manipulation ethically good or bad.


Religious nuts claiming genetic manipulation as "bad" is to be expected. Religious nuts don't mind existing in a condition of weakness as long as they feel something powerful watches over them.

Fortunately for us existing in REALITY, religious nuts don't understand the uses of genetic manipulation yet, or else they might oppose all stem-cell research. I'm so happy we can inject viruses into any kind of stem-cell and produce any kind of stem-cell needed.
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