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Debate 7 Discussion: On the existence of free will
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[SS].Invictus
Aspirant Usergroup: Members Joined: Nov 14, 2009 Total Topics: 3 Total Posts: 23 |
Posted Nov 16, 2009 - 3:25 PM:
First of all because I sense this vibe of politically correctness I will tell you laconically what I think; There was never a moment I didnt feel free; thats because those moments made me free; the mentality I have when it comes to "Life", "Society", "System". If I take a walk I feel free. Thus if there is a will there is a way. I get on with it and by pass it. Yet, the only time and space I am free is when I am in my own room with no one else in there; due to the fact of having the freedom to behave, think and act without giving a rats ass about anyone judging it because no one is there to judge it! Last, I get free when I share my feelings and thoughts to another person; because I express this burden of absolute liberty with someone else. Hope you get me although I can understand why some wouldnt. I kind of dont either. |
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[SS].Invictus
Aspirant Usergroup: Members Joined: Nov 14, 2009 Total Topics: 3 Total Posts: 23 |
Posted Nov 16, 2009 - 4:03 PM:
I think I have used my argument for the wrong subject but I might be able to turn it around; Willing to be free. That is my ultima truth because willing to strive even though you will not, cannot reach perfection makes you somewhat of a mazochist-wise agent. Still a free one Knowing is to be free and willing is to ensure being free. Its like knowing you will die but willing to stay alive. I.e you come in terms and in agreement with your nature and existence, odds and facts Thus, knowing before it happens and still having the will to "keep" on knowing makes you ultimately free. |
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JiUsY
Skeptic Usergroup: Members Joined: Nov 21, 2009 Location: LaLaLand Total Topics: 2 Total Posts: 85 |
Posted Nov 21, 2009 - 11:24 PM:
If you are going to debate something it might be a good idea to make sure that all the participants agree on the subject of the debate - what meaning they give to the actual word/s. Paul and Socrastein seemed to agree in the end about the subject even if they arrived to different conclusions. Some of the other posters not so much.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks...ful_stroke_of_insight.html - Insight? You decide ;-) |
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Makarismos
Tenured Poster Usergroup: Members Joined: Mar 06, 2007 Location: Uk, Midlands Total Topics: 27 Total Posts: 1465 Last Blog: "No right to force PR"? |
Posted Jan 2, 2010 - 3:37 AM:
Often, agreeing on the subject is what philosophy is all about... Edited by Makarismos on Jan 2, 2010 - 3:44 AM |
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