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0 of 1 people found this post helpful Posted 10/22/09 - 04:18 AM: Subject: Creating Intertia	#1
To create inertia merely tumble a photon. From this an intertial particle will form and gain the property of rest mass and gravity. Arguments? Explanation needed?

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Posted 10/22/09 - 08:30 PM:	#2
A photon is massless at rest. Inertia, (but since you say "tumble", maybe you mean "angular momentum), depends on mass, so it will always be zero. You also have to consider wave/particle duality, so it may not be possible to "tumble", (are you talking about changing spin?), as they may not be literal particles, but something else.
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Posted 10/22/09 - 10:42 PM:	#3
Imagine that you have an eletromagnetic pulse in a spin chasing its own tail within a given plane much like wheel spinning on an axle. The pulse wave would be traveling at the speed of light in a circle. If you were to try to push the spinning pulse in any direction along the plane, some part of the pulse would already be traveling at the speed of light and not be able to be pushed any faster. The other parts of the "wheel", although pushable, would be bound to that part that could not change and thus any progress made in causing the wheel to move laterally would be at the expense of "bending the spokes of the wheel" or distorting the pulse spin. Thus there would be resistence to any such lateral push and the faster you tried to push it, the more resistence there would be because you would be distorting more and more of the wheel to the point that it could no longer spin due to all of it traveling at the speed of light in the same direction. But if you were to push transverse to that plane, in the same direction as the axis, there would be no resistence at all. In fact there would be so little resistence that you could not stop the spinning pulse from immediately shooting off at the speed of light along its axis. You would have a "photon". But now if you were to cause that same spinning pulse to not only spin around one axis, but also to spin along a transverse axis, the spinning pulse could no longer be freely pushed in any direction. It would resist any effort to accelerate it. It would have intertia. It would be a particle of matter.

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Posted 10/23/09 - 12:44 PM:	#4
What do you mean by an em-pulse with a spin that does not cohere? When you wish to look at particle like propogation see the two-slit experiment. Are you thinking of inertia purely as resistance to movement?
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Posted 10/23/09 - 02:44 PM:	#5
nousPLOTINU wrote: What do you mean by an em-pulse with a spin that does not cohere? I don't even know what you mean by that. nousPLOTINU wrote: Are you thinking of inertia purely as resistance to movement? On the subatomic scale, that is all it is. The property of inertia merely means that something resists acceleration. An electromagnetic wave spun in a trilateral manner, forming a sphere or bundle of energy, must resist any attempt to accelerate it in any direction. Even if bits of matter were not formed in that fashion, that bundle would behave in the exact same manner as a bit of matter (quark).

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Posted 10/25/09 - 01:30 PM:	#6
James S Saint wrote: I don't even know what you mean by that. On the subatomic scale, that is all it is. The property of inertia merely means that something resists acceleration. An electromagnetic wave spun in a trilateral manner, forming a sphere or bundle of energy, must resist any attempt to accelerate it in any direction. Even if bits of matter were not formed in that fashion, that bundle would behave in the exact same manner as a bit of matter (quark). How do you plan on exploiting the spinning factor?
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Posted 10/25/09 - 01:32 PM:	#7
What does that mean?

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Posted 11/07/09 - 09:27 AM:	#8
James S Saint wrote: If you were to try to push the spinning pulse in any direction along the plane, some part of the pulse would already be traveling at the speed of light and not be able to be pushed any faster. One does not need to postulate weird things like 3D spinning electromagnetic waves to achieve this - simply postulate that all particles create virtual photons (which are transmitted and absorbed continuously in random directions) and you get the same effect - trying to "push" the particle in any given direction also acts to try and accelerate those virtual photons.
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