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Posted 10/20/09 - 02:49 AM: Subject: Coffee, and other strange regional variations.	#1
I was told by my friendly barista today that the variations, and terms, long black and flat white where Australian . Is this so? Are you aware of other such local variations on common beverages and foodstuffs?
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Posted 10/20/09 - 03:12 AM:	#2
Banno wrote: I was told by my friendly barista today that the variations, and terms, long black and flat white where Australian . Is this so? I've never heard of those expressions before outside of the gym locker-room. In North America we use normal expressions for coffee such as 'double-double,' (two creams, two sugars) and 'regular,' (single cream and sugar). Are you aware of other such local variations on common beverages and foodstuffs? Yes....yes I am.
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Posted 10/20/09 - 03:14 AM:	#3
"Double-double"?
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Posted 10/20/09 - 12:24 PM:	#4
So how much froth do you get on a "Double-double"? If I order a capuchin or a latte, will I get a coffee or a funny look?
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Posted 10/20/09 - 05:45 PM:	#5
Double-Double is derived from the Tim Hortons' food chain. At least that is their claim. You wouldn't want to call a tim horton's cuppachino one per se... though it does have the same place-holder name. And some froth too! (more weight, less 'coffee' more chemical substitutes.) The others are the traditional "small, medium, large" and then Starbucks has derived "tall, grande, venti" for their size varients. What's a long black and a flat white then?
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Posted 10/20/09 - 10:37 PM:	#6
A flat white is a single shot with milk, only lightly frothed. A cappuccino without the fluff. A long black is a single shot with extra water. A short black is the usual espresso.
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Posted 10/21/09 - 01:37 AM:	#7
Banno wrote: A flat white is a single shot with milk, only lightly frothed. A cappuccino without the fluff. A long black is a single shot with extra water. A short black is the usual espresso. But isn't a single shot with milk a macchiato?

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Posted 10/21/09 - 01:39 AM:	#8
hinano wrote: But isn't a single shot with milk a macchiato? Sorry, I take that back. My mistake...

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Posted 10/21/09 - 04:14 AM:	#9
Banno wrote: So how much froth do you get on a "Double-double"? If I order a capuchin or a latte, will I get a coffee or a funny look? As you may have gathered already, the two terms I introduced above refer only to the amount of cream/milk or sugar one is putting into one's coffee. They typically have nothing to do with specialty coffees per se. Those terms were in use in restaurants and coffee shops when I was a pup, as were other terms such as 'cuppa java' and less frequently, 'cuppa mud' (as in "Gimme a cuppa mud Rosie!") which also referred to a simple cup of (pre-specialty, pre-barista era) coffee. In the small town where I come from, a male will sometimes get a funny look for ordering something frothy or flavoured. Oil refinery 'grunts' usually don't lean toward 'Vanilla Lattes.' For myself, I usually prefer regular, old-fashioned, Columbian coffee, nothing fancy. If it 'froths,' I pass it on to my girlfriend, sister, or any female in close proximity. Edited by Mako on 10/21/09 - 09:02 AM
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Posted 10/21/09 - 12:29 PM:	#10
Curious. I hadn't thought of coffee as having gender...
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