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yebiga
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Posted 10/01/09 - 06:28 AM:
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Communist misadventures during the 20th century have cast a cloud over progressive Socialist reform of the Capitalist system. Conservative forces can always point to the excesses of communism to thwart the progress and evolution of capitalism.

Marx’s critic of capitalist (bourgeios) society displays deep scholarly insights as poignant today as when they were written over a 150 years ago, perhaps more so.

“all fixed, fast-frozen relations with their train of venerable prejudices and opinions are swept away; all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned”

Everything it builds must be torn down, Marx observes a constant endless innovation is implicit in this system. It is an amoral system, always building and tearing down, buildings, systems, relations and lifestyles. It is a system which acknowledges but one value; profit. All other values are bought and sold. Marx’s conviction of the inevitability of the coming revolution is based on this DNA to innovate, that inevitably Capitalist society would come around to innovating itself.

But where Marx’s study of this system is deep, his work on its future successor, Communism, is profoundly superficial. His critic of our system is based on scholarship, but the thought required to implement and sustain this future utopia is entirely missing.

Thus, the Communist Manifesto is ultimately a work of shallow idealism. Its practical implementation would inevitably become an act of pure vandalism. In proposing or predicting communism, Marx naively ignored the powerful forces, structures and politics that constitute a society; The history of empires, revolutions and their administration. Where are the references? His how is almost metaphysical: inevitability!

The city of Chicago has applied for the 2016 Olympic games. The proposed Olympic Stadium is to be a temporary structure and will be disassembled immediately after the games. Marx would not be surprised. Everything that is built must be torn down at an ever-faster pace.

I am interested in how you see Capitalism evolving and into what?

Edited by yebiga on 10/02/09 - 12:00 AM

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Posted 10/01/09 - 08:01 PM:
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I'll start by pointing out the misuse of the term "evolution". A system evolves to exploit its niche and should run in parallel to the environment. What it looks like you are referring to is "progress", which is innovation and adaption toward a higher system. People like to think of evolution as a tree with some species being superior to others, but it is actually just a slightly unbalanced system diversifying. The biological and political analogy would indicate that social systems would simply diversify and become too complex to fit under any single definition. You can see this in the environment today by the number of systems that incorporate various forms of democracy, constitutions and economic systems tending toward private ownership and public socialism. Each government becoming its own particular species and naturally fitting its own special environment.

Marx was a snapshot of the concerns for his time. Technology had advanced to introduce industrialization and he sought to address the alienation and exploitation of the wealthy over the poor. He pushed for the opposite extreme -- public ownership of the means of production, to resolve this. I think "conservative capitalist forces" call recent history a "communist misadventure", but I keep thinking that it was actually quite successful. They point to the fall of Soviet Russia, but China and Cuba are still enjoying some benefits from their system which may have been more appropriate for their environment. Russia managed to become a nuclear superpower and nearly match the United States in the space and technology race. There may have been no race at all if both sides feared the faults of the other's social-economic system. Toward the latter stage, there was a lot of adoption of the other side's principles.

I think capitalism will always run in cycles. Whenever there are resources and advantage, (due to technological and social "progress"), economies will heat up, collapse and those hit hardest will be faced with the need to revolt. The challenge for a government is to keep the people secure or afraid of rebelling. Communism is not an opposite, but simply another form of capitalism, where the government is just a mega-corporation monopoly that owns and is owned by the people, with corrupt management and zealous marketing, so it ought to suffer from the same cyclical extremes as any other capitalist system. The people rebel or is overthrown by competition when it is weakened by collapse.

I see capitalism becoming weaker in the future. It relies, at least in theory, on abundant inexhaustible resources. But no resources are inexhaustible and as resources diminish the harsh realities of survival will tip the balance toward those who dominate in numbers rather than in wealth. It won't be consistent. The wealthier the economy, the harder the fall. There will probably be just a wide range of smaller and more diverse "species" of economic systems, appropriate for each environment. I think, eventually, regions will realize that smaller really is better and cooperation and mutualism between countries is better and more efficient than dominance and violence.

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Posted 10/02/09 - 06:57 AM:
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I reckon that Marx would pin down any socialist reform of the capitalist system - or evolutionary socialism, in as many words - as reactionary and merely an attempt to pacify the proliteriat. His work, as you say, on his utopian communist society is superficial and lacking; he spent so much of his time ruthlessly analysing capitalism and taking it to pieces that he really didn't have time to draw a picture of what he wanted the revolution and destruction of capitalism to bring about. You're spot on when you mention how capitalism inevitably builds things and tears them down. Marx did point out that capitalism was doomed to boom and bust economics, because of the markets constantly getting flooded. It was this which led him to claim an element of 'inevitability' in the downfall of capitalism - the bust periods would get longer and longer, and thus the proliteriat would eventually realise its destiny, achieve class consciousness and violently overthrow the capitalist system.

yebiga wrote:
The history of empires, revolutions and their administration. Where are the references?


I must just defend Marx on this point. Although he didn't perhaps analyse EVERY historical movement and past revolution, he did do a lot of work on feudalism, the French Revolution and socialism as it was before he designed his 'scientific' system. His analyses, and those of Engels, were generally based around economics too much, and did as you say contribute to the rather reductionist Marxist view of history, basing everything around economic relations. Still, I wouldn't criticise him for not doing the work, as he wrote volumes of stuff. Considering how he was involved deeply in the Communist movement, his personal poverty and his deterioting health, I think we can say that Marx did the best he could in presenting a complete view of history from the standpoint of his theories. The Communist Manifesto could have been edited, but Marx and Engels wanted to keep it the same as it was when they wrote it. It can only really be said to be the surface of their ideas, but I think its still an extremely important book.

Maybe a paragraph of Trotsky will shed some light on what many communists see as their 'ends':

"It is difficult to predict the extent of self-mastery which the man of the future [in a socialist society] may reach or the heights to which he may carry his technique. Social construction and psycho-physical self-education will become two aspects of one and the same process. All the arts - literature, drama, painting, music and architecture - will lend this process beautiful form. More correctly, the framework in which the cultural construction and self-education of Communist man will proceed will also develop all the vital elements of contemporary art to the highest point. Man will become immeasurable stronger, wiser and subtler; his body will become more harmonious, his movements more rhythmical, his voice more musical. The forms of life will become dynamically dramatic. The average human type will rise to the heights of an Aristotle, a Goethe, or a Marx. And above these heights, new peaks will rise."

All this does kind of rely on the idea that economic inequality is the root of all the problems of society. As you suggest, yebiga, this may be somewhat naive.

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Posted 10/02/09 - 09:45 AM:
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Marx wrote before intellectuals began seriously pondering the imminent threat of ecological catastrophe posed by global warming and the like.

They say carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere will reach 450 parts per million by 2045 or 2050--according to the best supercomputer models. 450 parts per million is a "maximum threshold" beyond which there is little hope of reversing or arresting the havoc caused by the concomitant climate change. Just google "450 ppm".

Even if a world-wide Marxist revolution were to be achieved in the next five years, could its leaders, planners, and participants steer the entire economy, all of society, toward a "green" solution while maintaining industrial levels of production, at least for essentials, in time to stave off "Year 450ppm (trademark!)"?

Consigning capitalism to the dustbin of history and ushering in the socialist era may be a noble quest, but each tick of the clock shaves a measurable percentage from the window of possibility--forever.
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Posted 10/02/09 - 02:58 PM:
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Marx wrote before the era of the big corporation and the massive growth of the state characteristic of the past century. As such, he overlooked the potential for a dominating and exploiting class other than the capitalists to replace them as the new bosses. This led to the mistaken assumption that the liberation of the working class could be achieved by simply expropriating the capitalists and converting means of production to public property. We see in the Communist Manifesto, for example, the proposal to concentrate all the means of production into the hands of the state.

But then you have the problem of the emergence of the techno-managerial class -- a new dominating class -- in all the Communist countries. This class is based on a relative monopolization of decision-making authority and expertise relevant to control of workers and control and planning of the work process, technology and economic ventures, and the control of society in general.

This blindness is reflected in things like Lenin suggesting that the German post office was a model for a socialist economy in State and Revolution, or Trotsky's insistence up to his death that the Soviet union was "proletarian" just because of state control of the economy. All of this leaves out the need for real power of workers in the self-management of industry, and direct democracy as a basis for the polity in general.

This class also exists within corporate capitalism, but as a subordinate class under the top capitalists or plutocracy.

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Posted 10/03/09 - 03:08 AM:
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Realistcat:

I've put a bunch of books in my Amazon queue to catch up with your erudition on anarchism and left political philosophy in general. But, in parting, I will offer a couple of points that might be useful.

Lenin did propose a somewhat "statist" (for lack of a better word) approach to "socialist economics" in Russia, but this has to be weighed against the particular historical conditions under which he worked as a professional revolutionary. He was attempting to bring about a socialist revolution in a European country which, while organizable, was still many, many years behind the much wealthier, more heavily industrialized nations to the West. He didn't want to wait for the French Socialists, or the SPD, which had begun pursuing a parliamentarian strategy of gradualism, to stumble across the revolutionary logic he was transmitting through his own organization. Marx argued for revolution in the advanced industrialized countries; Lenin "telescoped" the theory and argued for a revolution among the newly industrialized workers in Russia. There was quite a bit of industrial capital in Russia, if not as much as in some of the Western European countries. So, one could argue that if a confident revolutionary class of Russian workers had seized power in the major cities and successfully controlled the country without the Russian Civil War (1918-1921, 20 million deaths), a centralized economic system wouldn't necessarily have resulted in the same Stalinist outcomes. Isolation and international capitalist pressures play a huge role in any revolution's failure--whether on the battlefield or in internal Thermidor.

As for Trotsky's assertion that the USSR was a failed worker's state, he was definitely wrong. It was a "state capitalist" regime. I just don't think it was an inevitable outcome under any imaginable circumstances.

Whether the Bolsheviks were correct in taking power in 1917 is practically a question of philosophy. You would need a mulligan's time machine, kind of like the one Democrat's claim to have for the Nader 2000 campaign. But, at the very least, you have to admit there was an element of self-defense in their move.
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Posted 10/04/09 - 02:23 AM:
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CxOs/Evironment/ resources/multi-nationals/consumers...

I do not believe the executives (CXOs) of our global multi-national organizations are exactly what Nietzsche's had in mind with his overman/supermen. But the force they represent has indeed revalued all our values. It is a creed of endless and breathless rebuilding and tearing down. Marx identified the sacrilegious logic ingrained in a system which had but one value that of profit.

But the evolution of capitalism continues in directions entirely unexpected by Marx. The global multi-national corporation is less and less owned by industrial moguls and more and more by thousands of faceless shareholders, as larger and larger quantities of retirement funds move across continents and large numbers of middle, lower and aspirant classes become seduced by the universal measure that our worth is entirely monetary.

The mogul or oligarchy has become a mere anachronism which arises and flourishes in the midst of revolution: technical as in a Gates or socio-political as in an Abramovich. The level of competition, the appearance and disappearance of fortunes and the pace of this movement has seen the moguls take a back seat, diversify their wealth, and more and more the keys to the empire are in the hands of the Business School Technocrat. We move from Imperial Rome back to the Republic. CxOs can exercise ultimate power, are rewarded well, but the power is not embodied in themselves but the position they occupy. The power is both temporary and precarious, under constant surveillance, and criticism.

The existence of the Multi-national organization is also under constant threat. Literally overnight the largest organization, the most reputable and stable, as we have seen in the last 18 months, simply disappears. The Mogul, the oligarch, the established rich, like all of us live in a constant state of anxiety that their wealth and livelihood will simply "melt into air".

Marx's oppressed and exploited worker has also ossified as a paradigm. While the worker must continue to be exploited his/her importance as a consumer is now the subject. It is no longer sufficient to merely produce what is wanted or needed, capitalism operates far more efficiently when it can create what is wanted and needed. Marketing, advertising, focus groups, demographic segmentation, the entire force of media and its persuasive powers are deployed to create and control the consumer. 200 years of administrative, statistical, psychological knowledge is deployed to win the heart and mind of the consumer.

Complicit in this are governments who have been usurped by the global market and have adopted their language and technique to transform the citizenry into consumers. Every method of surveillance, categorization, persuasion and civil coercion are deployed to maintain a docile population of consumers.

This is not a denial of gross inequalities and the misery they create. Rather, I am suggesting that these inequalities are a product of mans greed and not something implicit in the capitalist system. On the contrary, I suggest that a healthy distribution of wealth is essential for the health of the capitalist system and that economic catastrophe’s occur when the in balance of equality becomes too large. I am suggesting that the force of capitalism will demand a greater and fairer distribution of wealth if only to ensure its own increasing success.

The cost of this new utopia may be too high not only from an environmental perspective but perhaps even more frightening is the prospect of 7 or more billion consumers who measure their respective worth solely as assets less liabilities plus cash flow.

Edited by yebiga on 10/04/09 - 02:29 AM

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Posted 10/05/09 - 03:49 PM:
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yebiga wrote:
CxOs/Evironment/ resources/multi-nationals/consumers...

This is not a denial of gross inequalities and the misery they create. Rather, I am suggesting that these inequalities are a product of mans greed and not something implicit in the capitalist system. On the contrary, I suggest that a healthy distribution of wealth is essential for the health of the capitalist system and that economic catastrophe’s occur when the in balance of equality becomes too large. I am suggesting that the force of capitalism will demand a greater and fairer distribution of wealth if only to ensure its own increasing success.
The cost of this new utopia may be too high not only from an environmental perspective but perhaps even more frightening is the prospect of 7 or more billion consumers who measure their respective worth solely as assets less liabilities plus cash flow.


The inequalities of capitalism are a product of the system itself which is founded on promotes and celebrates greed. If we are to wean people from their greedy impulses capitalism is the last system we need. It is not the forces of capitalism that demand and create a more equitable arrangement, it is the anti-capitalist forces that push capitalism into a more benign mode of operation to insure its survival.

The world is not better off for capitalism, a large portion of the planets resources are directed into endeavors that do nothing to improve anything but short term gain for the few at the expense of the many. What the world has spent on i-pods could have sent every child in Africa to school. The money spent on the continual replacement of perfectly operating appliances and automobiles in the developed world could provide every poor person on the planet with adequate food, decent homes, good jobs and quality health care but capitalism deems that by getting people who already have these things to buy new stuff capitalism would be more profitably served, which is true, for capitalism.

Capitalism by its very nature is incapable of distributing wealth in any equitable manner.
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Posted 10/05/09 - 05:47 PM:
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The world is not better off for capitalism, a large portion of the planets resources are directed into endeavors that do nothing to improve anything but short term gain for the few at the expense of the many. What the world has spent on i-pods could have sent every child in Africa to school. The money spent on the continual replacement of perfectly operating appliances and automobiles in the developed world could provide every poor person on the planet with adequate food, decent homes, good jobs and quality health care but capitalism deems that by getting people who already have these things to buy new stuff capitalism would be more profitably served, which is true, for capitalism.

Capitalism by its very nature is incapable of distributing wealth in any equitable manner.



I am reminded of the optimal price on a demand/supply axis in economics 101.

Following the recent global financial crisis, I can see that economic think tanks will be asking themselves this question, what is the optimum distribution of wealth to maximise financial growth? I read somewhere that in the USA 1% of the population controls 90% of the wealth. I am positing that this distribution is unhealthy and a significant handicap to the capitalist engine. Not for any philanthropic reason but solely for its own need to create profit and wealth the capitalist system will be forced to rebalance wealth more equitably.

This is, perhaps, until recently an impossible idea, but with the domination of multi-national corporations and the various interdependent relationships with economic think tanks and universities, Global Capitalism has evolved a fairly uniform advocacy which has perhaps a limited rationality. Nevertheless, in light of the recent crisis and the growing oppositional forces this rebalance seems to me unavoidable. It seems to me, it is a logic ingrained in the system and that the old labels of greed and monopolisation have become anarchronistic. Capitalism is a logical system which does not serve any individual, individuals merely fulfil rational roles which serve the system. Here all power is transitory and subject to surveillance, criticism and obliteration.

But as I have said earlier, from a 19th century perspective this maybe a material utopia, but in practice, life in hyper-consumerism may become far worse than mere poverty or environmental degradation. Life may become entirely intolerable where the individual is defined solely by the symbolism of consumer banality. A reality where all identity is objectified and limited to predetermined choices. Where thought outside the paradigm is defined as a condition to be treated, rehabilitated and normalised. A reality where the individual is obliterated.

This is certainly science fiction for most parts of the world, but in advanced, wealthy economies it is not so fictional at all.
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Posted 10/06/09 - 12:52 PM:
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Every time there is an economic crises wealth becomes more concentrated, not less. The economy recovers and grows and new wealth is created, much of which is widely shared until the next economic crises where, in the frenzy of market panic, much of this new wealth is removed from those who gained it and re-concentrated. It is the reason we have "the business cycle".

How many of those top bankers and hedge fund managers and their clients lost all the money they gained in the housing market ponzi scheme they ran? Not many. They sucked up wealth from all over the planet, put a lot of it in their pockets and then stood aside when the scheme collapsed and everyone else lost their shirts. Now they are snapping up an even larger share of the economy because they are the only ones left standing with money in their pockets.

Capitalism is not a logical system except for concentrating wealth and keeping it concentrated. Over the past 30 years much of the work of the financial markets has been to destroy the ability of the economy to spread the wealth. The middle class has been removed, the American dream downsized, and a two tiered system of economic reward instituted. Those at the top get everything and everyone else gets to live in a debt trap that they can never get out of. Getting ahead in America today is a lottery. A few win but everyone else keeps buying tickets and hoping and praying that they too will win. By keeping just enough wealth circulating to give people hope, and running these lotteries, and subduing and distracting them with an unending stream of idiotic messages of hope and fear they keep the masses from revolting, they hope.

Americans are getting fed up with capitalism, the kool aid is no longer working.
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