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Borges and Spinoza

Tobias
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Posted 05/30/08 - 12:42 PM:	#21
Well if in this case these stars are material Spinoza will never fit them in his Crystal. Great story about map making and it shows exactly what I am arguing. The next generation very understandably were not so fond of map making because the discipline was stressed so far that the map became a copy of the very thing it mapped. It was perfect map. So perfect it became rubbish. A very dialectical reversal of fortunes I would say. Map making is not map making when it simply copies, it needs a moment of abstraction, to become the idea of the thing it maps. I don't know what you mean by "the Ethics is a border crossing materiality" It is a book and as such material. But what distinguishes it from other equally material books are the ideas presented in it. 'Intellectual love of God Dunamis, if Spinoza wanted a border crossing (= usually referred to as transcendental by the way) material he would have vouched for a material love of god.
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Posted 05/31/08 - 09:25 PM:	#22
Tobias wrote: Well if in this case these stars are material Spinoza will never fit them in his Crystal. That is exactly the point, one does not fit anything "in" anything else, but realizes its connection. Which answers: I don't know what you mean by "the Ethics is a border crossing materiality" It is a book and as such material. But what distinguishes it from other equally material books are the ideas presented in it. 'Intellectual love of God Dunamis, if Spinoza wanted a border crossing (= usually referred to as transcendental by the way) material he would have vouched for a material love of god. [/quote] The border that is crossed is not the "ususl border" which is why you so ofent fail to understand Spinoza (in my opinion), thinking only of transcendence or bust. The border is a horizontal border. One might know the law of gravity, but one has not "transcended" gravitous objects. One just better understands their connections, and the connection between those objects and you. Spinoza's project is SOMETHING like this. But emphasizing the mutuality of the material and the ideational, every ideational move is for him a physical move. The Ethics is a book, just as other books are books, but this phycicall book (as Spinoza conceives it) when combined with your physical body, (like a potion one might drink), makes your body more powerful (more capable of acting). This is not a metaphor for Spinoza; it is a real combination. As to the "intellectual love of God" and why it isn't the "bodily love of God" if you understood his defiitions. love is defined as an idea in relation to ideas. There is no bodily love, nor bodily hate, nor bodily pride, and so on and so forth. But given the intellect's idea, it comes to see that all ideational acts are physical acts, so the intellectual love of God is indeed a kind of bodily love, for it is the body which under such a love, which becomes most powerful in its capacity to act. You, Tobias, might talk of the bodily love of one thing or another, but Spinoza does not. There is no such thing as the body acting in this way, by definition. The body does not cause or act on ideas.
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