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Posted 08/16/02 - 01:42 AM:	#1
My appologies if this is covered by other threads - but I'm curious as to everyone's thoughts concerning deja vu. I frequently experience it - it's high on my weirdness scale. Sometimes - I can actually come to a number when I get deja vu .. like I think 'this is the 4th time i've been here before' or 'this is the 3rd time now i've just had this deja vu' or, better yet, I get deja vu's of deja vu's. I'm getting way off-topic, so I'll pose the questions now. First of all, what is deja vu, and why do we get it? Secondly, I'd like to hear anyone's interesting memories or experiences with deja vu. -Distortion ps. I wonder how many of you got the joke in the description? Hehe
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Posted 08/16/02 - 02:27 AM:	#2
First off is the joke related to the ...i this is covered by other threads. if so yeah i get it hahaha funny stuff. I get deja vu quite often and like you it happesn many times and i have nested deja us but these things i think that i have done before I dont see how i ould cause its like soprecise like my deja vu can happen after seeing 30secs of events rolling out and ill think that its the forth time this has happened maybe two times but not 4. I dont think i ever actually experienced this thing beore i just think I do after it happens I hve heard someone say before that it has something to with the different parts of the brain processing the information at diferent speeds and then when all the information comes together you go hey thats already happened but it hasnt you just think it has because the info comes together at different times. Anyway thats just something I heard i dont really know if theres any evidence behind it but anyway its something to think about.

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Posted 08/16/02 - 04:08 AM:	#3
My dreams are exceptionally boring. (No, I'm not off topic, stick with it and I'll get there.) Usually I don't remember them, but when I do, they're boring. Often, I dream of things I'm expecting to do the next day or which I might do the next day. When that day comes, I've been known to get confused and think "did I do this already, or was that only something I dreamed doing?" Sometimes I don't question it, I'm sure I did it, and it's only when I come across clear evidence that I didn't do it that it occurs to me I might've dreamed it. In addition to that, simply thinking about doing something can get me confused as to whether I've done it, if I think about it enough. Sometimes I'll visualize the process of doing something, and that implants the memory -- later on I'll ask myself "did I do that?", and my memory will confirm that I did and will show me a visualization of me doing something I never actually did, simply because I'm remembering having imagined myself doing it. Deja vu, I say, is just something along the same lines.

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Posted 08/16/02 - 05:22 AM:	#4
Distortion, thanks for starting this thread, and no, we haven't been here before- at least to my knowledge. I had the deja vu experiences very often when I was about 8 years old but have not had any in the years since that time. I'm sure that Paul is correct in his dream theory as it has been proven that our brains are busy during various parts of the sleep cycle solving problems and rerouthing nerve connections, but I don't think that explains all deja vu experiences for all people. I remember having the experiences often even though I did not know in advance the day before that I would be in that situation. Maybe we can explore some of the literature out there on the subject and see what is known about it. If I find anything of value I'll report back.

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Posted 08/16/02 - 06:23 AM:	#5
The Pacific Neuropsychiatric Institute web site appears to have some intresting info. http://www.pni.org/research/anomal...a/deja_manifestations.html Some exerpts from the site: The Various Manifestations of Deja Vu Experience Deja vu refers to "any subjectively inappropriate impression of familiarity of a present experience with an undefined past." (Neppe, 1983, The Psychology of Deja Vu) Because deja vu is subjective and has been demonstrated to have several different subtypes, I do not classify it as within the domain of psi experience although a subtype called Subjective Paranormal Deja Vu (Neppe, 1981) may be. The terms "deja experience" and "deja vu" are used interchangeably. There are many ways in which deja experience may manifest. Some of these have specific names: deja entendu already heard deja eprouve already experienced deja fait already done deja pense already thought deja raconte already recounted deja senti already felt, smelt deja su already known (intellectually) deja trouve already found (met) deja vecu already lived deja voulu already desired At times the demarcation is artificial, as the deja experience can coexist in more than one of the above categories. Moreover, there are several other common kinds of deja experience that have not yet been categorized. Neppe (in conjunction with Prof BG Rogers, Professor of French, University of the Witwatersrand) in 1981 suggested the following additional terms: deja arrive already happened deja connu already known (personal knowing) deja dit already said/spoken (content of speech) deja goute already tasted deja lu already read deja parle already spoken (act of speech) deja pressenti already 'sensed' deja rencontre already met deja reve already dreamt deja visite already visited Deja rencontre appears preferable to deja trouve for the already met experience because it specifically relates to interpersonal situations. Copyright 1997 Pacific Neuropsychiatric Institute.

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Posted 08/16/02 - 07:34 PM:	#6
I read its a synapse misfire in your brain. One goes off to slow, and in that fraction of a second it feels like your experiencing something twice sometimes three times.

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Posted 08/19/02 - 06:52 PM:	#7
I've experienced Deja Vu a lot of times. My most interesting memory recalled was one that just happened recently but which I know I dreamed about almost 2-3 years ago. I dreamt of flashes between three things and I just attended a wedding. The first flash involved my cousin to the right of me talking about something, and then the second flash occurs when I look to the left where my uncle is taking a picture. The last flash involved looking straight where there were a bunch of ladies talking, the brides maids (which I didn't know who they were when I had that dream). I have so many other dreams and premonitions that it's not even funny. Now I'm just waiting for them to come true. Ah... life, fated or free will.

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Posted 08/20/02 - 03:51 AM:	#8
Originally posted by distortion ps. I wonder how many of you got the joke in the description? Hehe I guess I'm just slow! Can you explain it to me? ...and please type slowly!! Baron Max

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Posted 08/20/02 - 08:29 PM:	#9
Distortion - try deja vu on psychedelic mushrooms! That's weird. It's not an experience of the one experience having happened once before. It's an experience of that one experience having happened as if you're standing in an infinite hall of repeating mirrors. It's not quite infinite. The mind can't visualise infinity even on tryptaminergic hallucinogens. But it does spiral nicely out of control. Eventually you pick yourself up off the floor to find your friends standing around with concerned looks on their faces.

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Posted 08/20/02 - 08:31 PM:	#10
PS - that was an experimental phase of my life, it did do me a deal of harm, and I most definitely do not advocate the use of powerful mind altering substances especially for the purposes of philosophy. It was fun though You don't know the definition of wierd until you've seen a jelly-fish in your toilet bowl.

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