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Posted 09/05/09 - 06:08 AM:	#11
Maxvilly wrote: We had all had our own super-powers-if there was a god. Instead we pretend to be as gods by watching movies about super powers, lost worlds, and science fictions. I dunno, I'm tempted to believe if there was a God/Gods, we're the entertainment. We were never given super powers intentionally so someone can laugh at our feeble attempts at life. Either that, or we're a race in some online MMORPG and, in order for game balance to occur, we can't be too powerful.
"Fiction is the truth inside the lie." -Stephen King (probably the best material to come from Stephen King)

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Posted 09/05/09 - 12:28 PM:	#12
Well. Of course we could play and act out for somebody. It's rather unlikely. When we die we become united with black matters, and that we can not see "from below" -As we see what the bible creatturs wants us to see. Well. Too. I do ruin out an after life, but sort of an breaking process down us to nothingness. We see only what we can imagine. And what we are right now. Well the MMORPG is of course impossible. Unlikely. I do believe we are less than important. Somebody had blown up all of earth allready, and made "our game game" over! . Just the fact that we are speaking for a possibility of this wouldn't that in it self ruin it all out. It must had been more fun playing their game, when we was in stages of going from apes, to more developed humans. Sort of like "leveling up" playing a videogame, well- Any concerns?
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Posted 09/07/09 - 12:38 AM:	#13
=D I generally don't claim a de facto "I believe in Gods." system. I more play along the personification of form. You haven't noticed? Gravity itself follows all the basic definitions for being classified as a god. And no i'm not talking about the attraction part. I see no reason to not claim Fate made something happen. It is really no different then claiming that Gravity keeps me down. Well... at least until we hit the "lesser Gods, greater Gods" ideology.
"...There was a writer who asked why it was that when we find positive experiences we say that only the physical facts are real, but in negative experiences we believe that reality is subjective. He made an example of those who say that in birth only the pain is real, the joy a subjective point of view, but that in death it is the emotional loss that is the reality." - Tony Ballantyne, Recursion. _____________________________________________ Truth is want. - The internal state of matters. Truth is Need. - The external state of affairs.

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Posted 09/10/09 - 11:10 PM:	#14
Again, it's better to be in the middle than taking an extreme side. If you believe you are in one, if you don't you are in one. The point is that we just don't know though.
What you are, you are by accident of birth; what I am, I am by myself. There are and will be a thousand princes; there is only one Beethoven. - Ludwig van Beethoven

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Posted 09/11/09 - 07:05 AM:	#15
The viewpoint of why something happens creates a specific inlcination to your own action. You could somewhat feebly argue a similarity to mmorpg and re-incarnation.
"...There was a writer who asked why it was that when we find positive experiences we say that only the physical facts are real, but in negative experiences we believe that reality is subjective. He made an example of those who say that in birth only the pain is real, the joy a subjective point of view, but that in death it is the emotional loss that is the reality." - Tony Ballantyne, Recursion. _____________________________________________ Truth is want. - The internal state of matters. Truth is Need. - The external state of affairs.

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Posted 09/16/09 - 03:55 PM:	#16
You're all fools grasping for wind using your knowledge of a technological phenomenon known as video games to try to ascertain what might have been. The truth is we don't really know. Have you even read the bible or anyone who attempts to work out its problems? Your presuppositions astound me. CORRECTION: They don't astound me but it shocks me that you can't notice they are there. Your evidence for why there are no God/Gods is so trivial. You might as well say anything and call it evidence. Ex: There must not be a god because the sun is in my eyes.

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Posted 09/16/09 - 04:10 PM:	#17
Not notice? Pah. If you look back at most 'proof of God' (Christian); you always end up at a segmented version of individual certainty -a la Wittgenstein with noumetic Kant- which then somehow translates to society having a consiousness. All this ends up at 'force' derivitives which then obviously proves that God must exist because Johnny said somebody tapped him on the shoulder - which is negated by scientific methodology, which is circumvented through Skeptic methodology but disproven through theoligistic logic, which the altruistically allows for the possibility of beings who are a few hundred times more advanced then comparing ants to humans. Mmo's make this so much easier when considering re-incarnation/soul. Then you can argue personality division versus concieved physical traits of a screen and why LongBottoms number 1 still looks like Longbottoms number 20487. Then they spill the beans and claim that you don't actually kill your enemies. You merely knock them unconsious to attain some jerked pork ribs. Sigh.... I'm done. Summary: Point of View, Story-line, narrative divisions do not neccessarily coincide to noumetic truth. The closest we can get to "Proof of God." is by noumenic phenomena relationships. Yawn.
"...There was a writer who asked why it was that when we find positive experiences we say that only the physical facts are real, but in negative experiences we believe that reality is subjective. He made an example of those who say that in birth only the pain is real, the joy a subjective point of view, but that in death it is the emotional loss that is the reality." - Tony Ballantyne, Recursion. _____________________________________________ Truth is want. - The internal state of matters. Truth is Need. - The external state of affairs.

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Posted 09/16/09 - 04:13 PM:	#18
Further explanation. Fish out of water. Simply because we are intelligent beings does not mean that we are able to concievably exit outside of our observational view.
"...There was a writer who asked why it was that when we find positive experiences we say that only the physical facts are real, but in negative experiences we believe that reality is subjective. He made an example of those who say that in birth only the pain is real, the joy a subjective point of view, but that in death it is the emotional loss that is the reality." - Tony Ballantyne, Recursion. _____________________________________________ Truth is want. - The internal state of matters. Truth is Need. - The external state of affairs.

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Posted 09/18/09 - 01:43 AM:	#19
Maxvilly wrote: Smart people wrote the Bible to mislead. Why is the Bible read? And not blue like heaven is blue? Red is seen as Hell (flames). God is action. To read the Bible is to put up with less. The Bible was written by people who believed in that faith, it was never intended to mislead but to lead. The corrupted hearts of men do the misleading by interpreting the bible to fit their needs. This is a very narrow minded view and 'reason' for why a god would not exist. A god nor a religion can never be called false, nor could it exactly be called true. Historically perhaps yes, so that pretty much is the end for Mormons. Although to deny the existence of Jesus Christ is incredibly stupid, as well as narrow minded. It's like saying Gandhi or Bob Marley never existed. As for god though people only need faith to believe in a god, faith is not determined by proof.

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Posted 09/20/09 - 11:51 PM:	#20
I find this thread amusing. But just to throw in another perspective, in Buddhism they believe that there are god realms and that those beings born in there experience such pleasure that they are totally caught up in it and do nothing else. I guess what my point is is that why do we assume that if there are gods they would have anything to do with us? Or even watch us as some sort of entertainment? Why couldn't it be possible that the gods are just as busy as we are and don't have the time, nor want to, meddle in our lives and 'give us superpowers?' Just a thought. Edited by Incision on 09/21/09 - 02:49 PM. Reason: capitalization, punctuation
"In the teachings spoken without words, who is it who listens, who explains? As impositions upon unchanging nature, a hearer and a teacher are assigned." Buddha - Samadhiraja sutra

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