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Philosophy around the new Internet and our 1990s generations

Maxvilly
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Posted 06/08/09 - 04:29 AM: Subject: Philosophy around the new Internet and our 1990s generations	#1
A new generation of Internet and new generation of youth are to become adults one morning, grown up up from a fast pace with new idelogies spreading through Internet and newer fast technology developments. How do members here believe youth, born in the 1990s will handle power when they have majority of control in politics and step in to parlaments and powerful influential positions around the globe in companies and governments. Western Europe, North America and parts of Asia, made up of powerful countries with the majority of wealth on this globe, and possibilites to education. I want to hear what all high intellectuals here on this forum have in mind, opinions are in to forsee in 30 years ahead, ahead of us this day June 8, 2009 (UTC/GMT +1 hour). What troubles could we forsee see?, What do we have to keep up in place to play our cards right, Will our 1990s youth handle this globe in the future? Peace, Johan Séfstone Edited by Maxvilly on 06/08/09 - 09:07 AM
I had details here, ones.

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Posted 06/08/09 - 09:32 PM:	#2
If you're looking for a long-winded response covering all that you've asked for, I can't supply it. I will be a mover and shaker 90's born and bred and I myself would like to see some ideas about this world in the future. I had written something very long-winded but just deleted it. I'm tired and would rather see others opinions first. Maybe If I have more time I will stop and put my ideas for the future into organized writing. I can say however that the world leaders 30 years from now will be the intelligent of society. They will be the smarter and better prepared to lead a global network than any generation preceding them. Most youth today is floundering with the internet as it draws them into its seductive grasp. The elite, able to overcome the internet's addictive properties and use it for their gain will be the ones ruling the world.
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Posted 06/08/09 - 10:46 PM:	#3
In 30 years? I can't say for other places I guess I keep it to the US. Base on current trends, I suspect there will be. faster computers cheaper ways of information transfer development in neuroscience development in market research development in behavior analysis increase in the advertisement to children industry increase in advertisements in public schools increase in government's reliance on the "department of public relation" increase in government spending in advertisements and election campaign increase in government's reliance on sponsors Emotional Intelligence Quotient (EQ) becoming increasing accepted in the general public increase use of personality test in interviews I guess I leave it to you to put them together.
Keep it simple.

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Posted 06/08/09 - 11:53 PM:	#4
123savethewhales wrote: In 30 years? I can't say for other places I guess I keep it to the US. Base on current trends, I suspect there will be. faster computers cheaper ways of information transfer development in neuroscience development in market research development in behavior analysis increase in the advertisement to children industry increase in advertisements in public schools increase in government's reliance on the "department of public relation" increase in government spending in advertisements and election campaign increase in government's reliance on sponsors Emotional Intelligence Quotient (EQ) becoming increasing accepted in the general public increase use of personality test in interviews I guess I leave it to you to put them together. I don't believe this is an answer for the intended question...
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Maxvilly
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Posted 06/09/09 - 07:44 AM:	#5
It's addictive Internet and I was not born with Internet in place(Im 25), What I see on Internet is an often comments on youtube of hatery and on MySpace we could see all these different kinds of Themes made to mark and somehow make us feel more accepted, and unique infront of other people, both to our own age group to fit in and infront of adults. Internets are it seems in youths a board for some kind of hero fullfilment to feel some gap up that's been missing, their empty voices and life to be seen and in aspects accepted. Parents today don't teach their children to put their head up, we don't talk around emotions and problems in life. We don't really think around our children as much and teach them as much as we should. Now, I'm speaking in broad terms of western nations. Giving our children the newest gadgets seems to be more important than teaching them manners, or knowledge of some sorts. Either are we adults at any certain age and that I feel is how we hold ourselves back and can't find a purpose in our life when we get older, some feel frustrated and lack peace in oneself. We never hear about "creativity" and it's doomed to get worse, unless we put it in to our schedules and give it purpose, respect and meaning in Schools. It will prevent procrastination of over-emotions which leads to decrease in hate over the Internet, and in general in life to feel fulfilled. NikAngelo wrote: I don't believe this is an answer for the intended question... Right, it's somehow better than no answer. I could have created my letter clearer first in my attempt to start to discuss our future. Edited by Maxvilly on 06/10/09 - 11:25 AM
I had details here, ones.

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Posted 06/24/09 - 03:01 AM:	#6
I'd concur with NikAngelo and say that those who utilize the internet correctly, who use it to soak up knowledge and communicate with people from different backgrounds, will be, intellectually, more powerful than any generation in history. That being said, a lot of people are seduced by these "addictive properties", and most waste their time doing things on the internet that really don't contribute to personal growth (social networking, porn, celeb gossip, watching silly videos, online gaming). While I myself was born in the early 80s and not the 90s, I have spent 50% of my life as a serious internet user (and abuser). Only recently have I been able to differentiate between what's truly a waste of time and what will actually add value to my life. I am excited to see what this age of digital information will bring, and no matter what happens, I plan to be someone who benefits from it rather than someone who succumbs to it's negative aspects.

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Posted 07/06/09 - 02:57 PM:	#7
The "internet generation" will be not much different than those preceding it. Its dreams will be compromised or co-opted and commercialized. It will be forced to abandon the heady ethics and morality of youthful dreaming in the race to survive and get ahead. It will be social networked into an inescapable trap of its own naivety albeit on a larger and more pervasive scale than the traps of earlier generations. They will strive, they will take shitty jobs in a bad economy. They will drift about until they reach their thirties. They will struggle much harder because they face more competition and few good paying jobs. Their generation is bigger than the baby boomers and they are coming of age in a declining economy with very bad prospects. I was in the same place 30 years ago. The economy was collapsed, there were no jobs. General unemployment was 20% and interest rates were 18%. For people in their early 20s in 1978 unemployment was over 50%, nobody had a regular job. We stayed in college, we hustled to pay the rent. My advice, stay in school as long as you can and relax, have fun now because the job market will get better eventually and then you will have to buckle down and get a real job, but for now nobody is expecting that so take advantage. Take some crap job, save some money and then go places and do things while nobody is looking. Your social network is the key to your survival and fun for the next few years, don't sit still.

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Posted 07/12/09 - 12:11 PM:	#8
As someone who has just finished the first year of a politics and history course at uni, what has struck me is the utterly apolitical nature of my generation. I think following the collapse of the Soviet Union, the perceived hegemony of the United States and lassie faire Capitalism created a complacency across the board in arts departments. I have very little time for Marxism but at least it made people think about the moral foundations of market institutions and raised the possibilities for alternate modals. The recent collapse of the American slash and burn variant of capitalism is significant- I suspect libertarian and anarchist philosophies will return to irrelevancy, but Western capitalism will eventually renew itself and I see no major long term change. Unlike 1979 there is no new economic philosophy to take the place of the old system, the left in Europe is little more than a joke- parties have either drunk the Kool-Aid of neo-liberalism, or are hopelessly stuck in the idealist mindset of the 1960s. The internet has encouraged this situation because it insulates individuals from other cultures and ways of thinking. Yes, our generation is highly multicultural, but this just encourages a banal and unthinking apolitical universalism not a genuine challenge to the status quo. The destruction of neighbourhood communities, applications like facebook, and computer games mean people can coast through life without ever having to compromise (the essence of politics) or be challenged by anyone else. Why care about the maintenance of our democratic institutions or sustainability of our current life styles when you can be occupied by an endless river of scat porn, world of warcraft and Michael Richards calling people niggers on youtube? Regarding the undoubtedly popular anti-war or green movements I would argue that these are simply examples of Prozac politics, no more political than the shameless outpouring of grief that greeted the deaths of Jackson and Diana. The principles underlying them are hopelessly confused and morally dubious, and they usually attract those who seek to find a meaning in their lives or add to their unique ‘personalities’ rather than those who genuinely care. The future I suspect will see the spread of American style ‘politics’ where a mass nihilism finds its dialectal negation in a mass fundamentalism turning politics into a civil war by other means. Regardless the 21st century will probably be one of famines, resource wars and global warming which make the 20th century look positively tranquil by comparison. ....Heh, that accidentally turned into a bit a of a rant.

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Posted 07/13/09 - 01:11 PM:	#9
There was nothing new going on in 1979 except punk rock.

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