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Posted 05/26/09 - 12:43 PM:
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It has enabled me to think outside the box[. . .].

But if you don't go inside the box, you won't know what the beetle is.
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Posted 05/27/09 - 04:07 AM:
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I would have no quams with a pilot flying high.


I can't say the same. Drugs have negative effects, such as reducing driving ability. It would be unethical of the pilot to get high before flying as he is responsible for many lives - just as it would be unethical to fly if he did not have enough sleep or if he was prone to seizures. However, I see no reason why we all can't light up together in the crew lounge upon landing smiling face

Marijuana has bad effects. Most users I know are aware of that and they choose to smoke anyway. Much like tobacco smokers. This does not imply any ethical issues, unless you believe aware, willing and indirect self-harm is unethical. The negative effects are so greatly exaggerated though, that it amounts to propaganda. This is what concerns us.
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Posted 05/28/09 - 02:59 PM:
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Hemp has many uses besides smoking, and would make the slaves too independent if they could grow it. It threatens the power monopoly of the oligarch.

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Posted 05/28/09 - 03:16 PM:
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We are given rights, but are expected to have certain responsibilities we must fulfill. One of these is being an educated citizen and playing a part in our (United States) democratic government. By using marijuana, it leads us (yes, it's true) to be less educated, less involved, and less capable of fulfilling our responsibilities as citizens.

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Posted 05/28/09 - 10:56 PM:
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Its hard to say why something is illegal. You'd have to go to the time and place it was made illegal to know the exact reasons why.

Why it stays illegal I believe, is because of two factors. First there is not a strong enough vote, nor is there a organized demographic wanting to legalize it. Without this, no politician has any reason to legalize marijuana as it would not keep him in office, it would more likely get him out of office.

Secondly, as marijuana is a plant that is very easy to grow, it is unlikely that it could be taxed, or regulated. So there is little money to be made in legalizing it.

So when a politician asks "What's in it for me?" The case for legalizing marijuana has nothing to offer.
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Posted 05/29/09 - 06:25 AM:
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By using marijuana, it leads us (yes, it's true) to be less educated, less involved, and less capable of fulfilling our responsibilities as citizens.


No, its not true. Give me some proof otherwise! By the way, corellation does not imply causation, so statistics about less educated people being heavier users (should it exist) is not good enough.

This is mere anecdotal evidence but although have been smoking marijuana since I was 16, I hold a postgraduate degree and I care strongly about societal issues, getting more involved than average. As for responsibilities as citizens, one can only have those if one accepts that they are a citizen, which I do not. As a citizen of the world, I feel like I make more of an impact than most.

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Posted 05/30/09 - 03:14 PM:
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We'd be discussing the ban on crack and heroin here if there was no ban on Marijuana.


And we'd be discussing the ban on coffee and cigarettes if alcohol were made illegal. There's an opposite symmetry to that argument, and it doesn't clarify the issue.

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In my opinion there are more important issues.


I think the discussion of what people ought be allowed, is on the cutting edge of important philosophical issues of freedom vs control, not specific to marijuana. However because of it's prominence and controversy, it puts cannabis in the spotlight. A social issue is an important issue.

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Would you agree for the pilot of the aeroplane you are flying, to be high on Marijuana?


Certainly, and I would agree to him having a few drinks first too. I wouldn't be so agreeable if he was drunk though. It doesn't matter to me how his consciousness is affected, as long as it is within tolerable limits. Likewise, if he was suffering from a cold I would not be worried, but if he was in the midst of a fever, I would definitely have some concern.

The problem is being able to trust and gauge the level of intoxication for someone you are trusting your life to. If I knew they were cognisant to their surroundings, I would allow it.

We all risk our lives every day whether it is at work, playing sport, or doing mundane things such as driving down the road. To me it's not just an issue of "how bad do you want to live", but a balance with what you are willing to sacrifice from that life. I can imagine a world with greater liberties, and harmony with living well.

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Posted 05/30/09 - 06:14 PM:
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I think some people are frightened by the concept of alternative state of consciousness. It is alien to them.

(I, for example, would never try a dose of DMT.)
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Posted 05/31/09 - 06:38 PM:
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Marijuana is illegal because back in the early 1900's the lumber industry was threatened by marijuana's more cost effective and efficient uses such as paper. So the lumber industries lobbied and hired some lazy scientist to do a study on the effects of marijuana on people and he didn't do his research and said that 3 out of 10 dogs died from marijuana use. They also put fake stories in the newspapers saying people go crazy and commit murder while using marijuana.

Long story short, big business lied and lobbied to have it illegalized to eliminate competition.

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Posted 06/01/09 - 08:03 PM:
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Just out of curiosity, how many people posting on this forum actually take 'illegal' substances?

If you do not take or have never tried "drugs" then I think everyone would agree that you have no place giving your two cents on a topic such as this.



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