oligopolist wrote:
Ink, I think abortion is definately murder

The overwhelming majority of abortions are from irresponsible behavior

Inkstain wrote:
The issue of abortion has confused me for a while now. I want to hear your ideas on the subject. Should abortion be allowed for women who do not want a child or do not have the means to take care of them, or is abortion a form of murder that should end immediately?

Swordfishtrombone wrote:
How is this a philosophical discussion?

The basis for decision cannot be based on defining what is alive. Clearly a metabolically active zygote (a fertilized egg) is alive. But if a mother happens to be 4 weeks pregnant and inadvertently takes a medicine that aborts the fetus (before she even knows she's pregnant), is that manslaughter? Is that criminally negligent homicide?[/b]

oligopolist wrote:
Cookie Parker wrote:

It's fairly simple...will you raise the chlid economically, emotionally, and provide for each child born? If not, it's not your damn business, IMHO.

That's the entire reason there IS a legitimate argument. Since the state is using our tax dollars to do just that, then we do have a say, especially in state funded murder of any kind, whether it be war, abortion or capital punishment.

I have a solution to those who are torn between what is "right" in a woman's life and her decisions....if I'm not calling for you to be castrated or neutered because I think it will help population control, don't tell a woman what to do with her life...

I don't see the point in telling anyone what to do in that sense but I see nothing wrong with prohibiting state funded fetal executions or to socially frown upon the act itself as a resort of completely irresponsible people. It most certainly is not a matter of 'a woman's' right to anything. You have a right to choose your sexual partners and spouses, something new that our society has fought desperately to keep. You have a right to choose when you have sex, something that today is still a luxary in most of the world. Those are rights as defined and protected in our laws, No one has a 'right' to any particular form of irresponsible behavior or dealing with it's self imposed consequences when they affect society economically and socially especially one that can remotely be percieved as murder. Once your actions effect others, the father the fetus and anyone else involved, it is no longer an issue ofone individual's 'rights'. Does a man have a 'right' to force a woman to have an abortion? If it's an issue of rights, both parties are effected and both have the right to make that decision, according to some, individually. So as long as one chooses to abort, it's their right to do so?

ANother angle to consider is this. If a woman is murdered by her deranged husband while pregnant, I believe that man should be prosecuted for two murders. By saying aborion is a matter of your right to something as opposed to some form of justifyable homicide, it hurts the legal interpretation. It's also hard to swallow animals having more 'rights' than a fetus.

The fight for Women's equality is about equal opportunities in the work place and her ability to not be mistreated, not to give women the right to do whatever they want to a fetus. Trying to throw abortion into that realm is a tragic misrepresentation of the cause and has done so much to hurt it overall.